curmudgeon
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We are at war!
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Not with Iraq but with Mexico. We have been at war with Mexico off and on since 1836. Mexico has discovered the method for defeating us. They will conquer us from the inside. They will invade us with million of their citizens who even generation later will hold allegiance to her over the U.S.
There have been disloyal immigrants to the U.S. in the past. During the Mexican-American war there were a few Irish immigrants who chose to side with the Mexicans because of their Catholic heritage. During WWI there were many German immigrants who initially sided with Germany until the U.S. entered the war. The English only rules for instruction in public schools were adopted to during WWI to address Germans not Mexicans.
Even in WWII there were disloyal immigrants. Japanese immigrants on Hawaii provided the intelligence necessary for them Empire of Japan to successfully attack Pearl Harbor.
The Mexicans are using the same techiques that the communists hope to use to defeat us. They knew they could never defeat us militarily. The will use the ballot, defeat us from the inside. Ole Homer is an operative of a foreign government.
Does anyone believe that a United States of America will still be the United States of America and not the northern province of Mexico if the majority of the citizens are Mexican. We need to address the problem now. We need to draw a line as memorable as the one drawn in the sand at the Alamo. Are you a Mexican or are you an American? No man can serve two masters.
You are an American or you are a Mexican. You can't be both.
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sidewalk_cipher
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Re: We are at war!
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I agree to a point... I don''t think its some secret plot amount the masses of mexican imigrants to ""take over the US."" I don''t see it as an attack, but a really bad situation resluting from the existing curcomstances of the regions. sure the government pushes more imigrantion to America, but the imigrants themselves arn''t trying to ""take over"" but simply find a better life.
You want to win this ""war"" quite taking it out on mexicans, you''ll loose every time... look towards yourself. Have more kids, and push the western/american beliefs.
If you turn a war of democraphics into a war of guns and bombs your just asking for more trouble... fight democraphics with democraphics.... trouble is, the society you want to save, dosn''t want to save itself... women want carrears insted of babies, we don''t want to extend our culture into the future, if we did we would have more kids. Like Toynbee said, civilizations arn''t murdered, they commite suicide.
Why do you think mexicans breed more than secular americans? Might religion have something to do with it?
curmudgeon
Posts: 2882
Breeding is a problem . . .
1/10/2006 10:23:33 AM
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. . . we have to accept as long as we have the 14th Amendment in force. Illegal immigration is something we don''t have to deal with. We haven''t lost a war with the Mexicans yet and this is not a time to start.
sidewalk_cipher
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Re: Breeding is a problem . . .
1/10/2006 10:40:29 AM
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Illegal immigration is something we don''t have to deal with.
With the way the country and economy is set up today.... it IS something we have to deal with... until we change our underlying desire for cheap labor.
We haven''t lost a war with the Mexicans yet and this is not a time to start.
If you keep seeing it as a ""war"" against the mexicans your bound to make bad moves... its not a ""war"" with mexicans, its a war with ourselves. We''ve been taking in imigrants from all countrys for hundreds of years... why all of the sudden are we thretened today? Because we''ve stoped breading... its not that mexicans breed to much, its that americans don''t breed enough... its not a war and invasion, its american society giving up and not wanting to repopulate itself.
You said religion is man trying to excape his mortality... I agree, he does that by having babies to carry on his beliefs... once man realises his religion is an imposible atempt to cheat his mortality he gives up....
Again, societies arn''t murdered, they commite suicide.
Its your fault, not the mexicans... until you see that your doomed to present bad solutions... like war with mexico.
curmudgeon
Posts: 2882
This is a war . . .
1/10/2006 11:12:27 AM
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. . . more so than any half-assed war on drugs, or war on poverty or war on terrorism. This Mexican invasion threatens the sovereignty of the U.S. As for accepting immigrants, accepting implies a voluntary action. We have never accepted folks who demanded to come here. Most of these Mexicans are here illegally, the U.S. is a nation of legal immigrants. If we need hard working, cheap labor, let''s get it from China. Their kids can pass the TAKS.
sidewalk_cipher
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Re: This is a war . . .
1/10/2006 11:22:08 AM
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more so than any half-assed war on drugs, or war on poverty or war on terrorism.
You''ve got a weird view of what a ""war"" is.
This Mexican invasion threatens the sovereignty of the U.S.
Its not mexican imigrants that threatens the US... its a mexican majority... which comes, not from imigration, but breeding.
As for accepting immigrants, accepting implies a voluntary action. We have never accepted folks who demanded to come here.
? America from its begining was and is a nation of imigrants.
Most of these Mexicans are here illegally, the U.S. is a nation of legal immigrants.
Legal status dosn''t change demographics. Legality dosn''t change your culture or beliefs.
If we need hard working, cheap labor, let''s get it from China.
Ok, while we''re at it, lets stop using fossile fuels, get rid of authority, and bring peace to all the nations of the world... get real... replacing mexican imigrants with chineese is totally unfeaseable.
YOur one liners, while they may sound good, when applied to the realities of a compelex world, are really silly.
curmudgeon
Posts: 2882
If . . .
1/10/2006 11:43:28 AM
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. . . the majority of the people in the U.S. are Mexican will it be the U.S. or Mexico. Have you been to Laredo lately? Have you been to Robestown lately? Have you been to Brownsville lately? In my short life I can remember when they were all very different (and better) places.
I don''t have a weird idea of what war is. Read The Art of War, it is used in all three of our military academies and then come back a talk to me about war. We didn''t understand this when we fought Ho Chi Min.
You are right in that legal status does not change demographics. We have generations of Mexicans who have failed to embrace American culture (and also generations of those who have). We need to draw the line and find out where their loyalities lie. There are too many Homer''s out there.
I can generally say more in one line than you can in ten.
Wild Ape
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Has Homer ever stated his position on Atzlan?
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What is Homer all about in your opinion Curm?
curmudgeon
Posts: 2882
IMHFO . . .
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. . . Ole Homer is one of these Mexican revolutionaries who believes Texas and the Southwest was stolen from the Mexicans by the gringos. He is a self-proclaimed part of the Aztlan movement, the reconquesta. In reality is is just a second generation wetback who has taken advantage of our system, gotten a nice education at our expense and will try to use it to defeat us.
Jaime Kenedeno
Posts: 800
Curmy I respectfully ....
1/10/2006 12:12:14 PM
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disagree.
Time will tell if I am right or I am wrong.
IMO Homer is about humanity.
sidewalk_cipher
Posts: 1872
Re: If . . .
1/10/2006 1:28:39 PM
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If the majority of the people in the U.S. are Mexican will it be the U.S. or Mexico. Have you been to Laredo lately? Have you been to Robestown lately? Have you been to Brownsville lately? In my short life I can remember when they were all very different (and better) places.
You obviously prefer amreican culture over mexican... the only way to win the culture war like that is, have more people who like and believe what you believe.
I don''t have a weird idea of what war is. Read The Art of War...
To call it a war is to imply there are two oposing sides that want to conquor eachother. Only the few nuts on the fringes of both societies call for the destruction of the other... the big majority of americans and mexicans are just trying to get by. The millions coming across the boarder arn''t thinking about how their imigration will evetually lead to the fall of America.... they want a job.... looking at it like a war obscures so much of whats happening...
it is used in all three of our military academies and then come back a talk to me about war. We didn''t understand this when we fought Ho Chi Min.
So... how can you call to fight a war against the ""mexican invaders"" when you totally destroy the religious inclinations of your troops? Have you read ""art of war?""
We need to draw the line and find out where their loyalities lie. There are too many Homer''s out there.
Well, you can either round up death squads and kill these people, or expelle them or lock them up or what ever, based on their beleifs... a policy doomed to evetual failure.
OR.... grow your numbers... Its no coincidence the more religious a society the higher its birth rates.
again... societies arn''t murdered... you think its mexicans killing american society... and are ready to fight back.
They commite suicide... ie. really its you dwindling away, mexicans are just filling the void... the only real solution... breed... and pass on your traditions, values and beliefs.
curmudgeon
Posts: 2882
If the ability to breed prolificly . . .
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. . . is the measure of societal success then Africa is the most successful continent on the planet.
The are two opposing sides, Mexico and the United States. I''m sure the majority of folks in both North and South Korea just wanted to get by. The same came be said for North and South Vietnam. We didn''t understand that war consisted of more than open hostilities during Vietnam and we lost.
We need to recognize those who are disloyal to the U.S. Once we brand them as the traitors they are they are no danger. The danger lies in letting them slither around undetected.
I really don''t give a fcuk if the troops pray to Buddah or the Tooth Fairy or nobody at all as long as they are loyal Americans and do their job.
sidewalk_cipher
Posts: 1872
Re: If the ability to breed prolificly . . .
1/11/2006 9:24:11 AM
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is the measure of societal success then Africa is the most successful continent on the planet.
50 years from now, when European languages are gone, and spanish is spoken in america you might relise the truth of your statement....
you can invenet all the cool stuff you want, if you don''t have kids to carry on your beliefs and traditions, you culture will die.
curmudgeon
Posts: 2882
Get out there . . .
1/11/2006 9:31:26 AM
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. . . and save the White race! In fifty year I won''t care.
sidewalk_cipher
Posts: 1872
Re: Get out there . . .
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Get out there and save the White race! In fifty year I won''t care.
Then what the hell are you so worked up about? Why worry about a ""mexican invasion"" if you don''t care what will happen in 20-50 years?
secondly... its not a racial issue... theres no such thing as a pure race, so to save the white race is retarded... it means nothing...
Culture is what I''m talking about... and If you like american culture, which I though you did, based on your constant talk about ""mexican invasions."" Your culture will be gone...
So what is it your so worked up over? If you don''t care about the death of american culture, do you just hate mexicans?
Elwood Blues
Posts: 253
Re: We are at war!
1/10/2006 10:26:08 AM
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""Ole Homer is an operative of a foreign government.""
Careful,curm...you''ll have Jaime Kanabeanso citing ""Havlinka vs.Oscar Mayer"" precedents at you,or he''ll send the five invisible priests to jump you at a 7-11.
Wait!..you''re Marie..aren''t you? I KNEW it!.Why are you trimming KFATSO''s trees Marie?..and why are not advocating for South Texas Gnomes?
ICU!..pay your bills,or this will be a ""tickler"" of events to come! We at Girabaldi''s are,like Winchell,in the know!
curmudgeon
Posts: 2882
They already . . .
1/10/2006 10:39:20 AM
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. . . threatened to do a drive-by on my house. I wonder how .223 round I can get into a vatomobile before it gets to the end of the block. BWAHAHA!!!
Jaime Kenedeno
Posts: 800
Who is.....
1/10/2006 11:06:53 AM
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they Curmy?
Jaime Kenedeno
Posts: 800
I knew you could......
1/10/2006 11:03:05 AM
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not ignore me Elwood.
The show was about building a wall to stop illegal immigration. Right?
I cannot belive WATT I heard today from some of the people who are supposed to have common sense.
A wall wont work period.
It is a tremendous waste of money. If they dont have the money to fund hiring 2000 border patrol per year for the next five years per the laws and budget set then where are they going to get the funding for a senseless wall. The drugs dont come through the bushes where rabbits cant go. The drugs come straight down the corridor. Immigration well that is a whole nother animal with respect to the wall. I thought that Jerry had a pretty reasonable idea although to be Border Patrol one must be bilingual amongst other qualifications. But Jerry had his heart in the right place as did Raymond. Did you guys know how Trejo''s grandparent''s arrived here illegally?
Elwood as for Marie she admittted her indiscretions to Ray right in front of my wife and me. There were two other witnesses I will not name at this time but it is not like I am trying to hurt her relationship. She did that.
And you cant write anything without resorting to name calling. You are a digression.
But you funny anyway EB.
LOL
curmudgeon
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I don''t remember exactly . . .
1/10/2006 11:32:33 AM
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. . . who ""They"" is but it was one of the posters on the El Defenzor board.
As far as the wall is concerned, I agree that it is a waste of money and the politicians know it. What better way to get the heat off them than to take some action they know will be ineffectual.
On the topic of illegal drugs, I wonder how a country proposes to keep illegal drugs out with more than 4,000 miles of land border and at least that much coastline when they can''t keep illegal drugs out of prisions that have walls around them and tennants who have limited if any civil rights.
Jaime Kenedeno
Posts: 800
I dont need to.....
1/10/2006 11:48:46 AM
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make threats.
Why would I give warning?
The drugs come straight up the corridor Border Patrol approved.
We all know that.
The ones coming through the brush,..... well they are the labor that picked the cottton before there were the inventions of Ely Whitney.
All of the Ranchers and country folk employ these illegal immigrants or as some prefer to call them undocumented workers.
Homer is not a bad guy Curmy. You know that.
Sometimes he does get blinded by being too close to the light.
curmudgeon
Posts: 2882
You know me . . .
1/10/2006 12:24:23 PM
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. . . I don''t need a warning. I keep the Mini-14 by the front door and have an unobstructed 500 meter field of fire in both directions. I figure I can get magazine 1 and part of magazine 2 into any car foolish enough to shoot at my house.
I have no doubt that some of the drugs coming across have the cooperation of the Border Patrol. I worked for MoPac for 10 years as a conductor, part of the time on the Kingsville-Brownsville run and saw how easy it was to smuggle chit and how inefficient the Border Patrol was.
All the ranchers I knows around here ''em wetbacks, even the Mexican rangers.
Anyone who wants to change the U.S. into Mexico is a bad guy, in my opinion.
Jaime Kenedeno
Posts: 800
I will have no part.....
1/10/2006 12:33:44 PM
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of changing USA into Mexico.
That is crazy to even consider.
Homer is not about that.
He wants to help the impoverished and the poor.
There is a lot of that in Mexico.
NAFTA???
WATT is that about? fixing the roads in Mexico where the Eighteen Wheelers roll and the establishments along the highways (corridor)
I guess you know ole Ricky Alvarez eh Curmy?
I dont wanna hear about your hunting blind.
Drive byes are not my style and you know that Curmy.
My JOB is right here keeping my hands clean.
And you know thatt as well.
curmudgeon
Posts: 2882
Why is that crazy . . .
1/10/2006 12:46:04 PM
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. . . to consider. We have already changed a strip a hundred miles wide or so into Mexico or a close analog. Ole Homer wasn''t unlimited access for Mexicans into the U.S. That is tantamount to turning the U.S. into Mexico.
I don''t care about the roads in Mexico . . . or England or Germany for that matter. I don''t know who Ricky Alverez is or care. I wasn''t talkin'' about my hunting blind but my home. I wonder what my neighbor, Martine would think if I fired up the neighborhood one night?
Jaime Kenedeno
Posts: 800
It aint happenin Curmy.....
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You aint firin no bullets from your porch.
Unlimited access?? How much more unlimited can it get?
Why doncha ask Martine?
curmudgeon
Posts: 2882
Nobody ain''t . . .
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. . . shootin'' at my house neither. I am a pacifist.
Me an ole Martine ain''t ''xactly on a first name basis. Hell, I didn''t even get a Christmas card from him this year.
sidewalk_cipher
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Re: I will have no part.....
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I will have no part
of changing USA into Mexico.
That is crazy to even consider.
Homer is not about that.
He wants to help the impoverished and the poor.
There is a lot of that in Mexico.
Thats what I''m talking about Crum... they don''t set out on a war to destroy the US... you SEE it as that... but thats not the thinking behind emigrants or people like Homer (excpet the few fringe crazies)
In the end they just want a better life... and that means coming here... which by default, if there are more mexicans than americans, turns the american land into a mexican culture. Its not a war... its just people acting like people.
How to stop it? Breed... work on political limits to imigration, of course... but in the end, the only way to win is to have more of people who believe like you than them... being a self proclaimed anarchist I''m guessing this will be hard for you.
curmudgeon
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Total . . .
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. . . bull chit. The come here because Mexico is a chit hole but they come with an attitude. The attitude is that this is really stolen territory. We really owe them. Why should they learn the language or adopt our culture, after all, this is their land.
They are coming here againt the will of the American people, so it is an invasion. They are destroying our hospitals and emergency rooms, filling our prisons and causing the quality of our education to decline and the expense to rise. We need to stop it and stop it now.
If 78% of the students in surburban Virginia and Maryland schools were Mexican it would stop overnight.
sidewalk_cipher
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The come here because Mexico is a chit hole but they come with an attitude.
they come with a culture... yes...
The attitude is that this is really stolen territory.
For some... do you think the average mexican imigrant gives politics that much thought?
Why should they learn the language or adopt our culture, after all, this is their land.
I think the fact that many don''t assimilate isn''t due to the land beliefs... I think a BIG part of it is american attitudes... the belief in america that they don''t have to... everything is offered in any language, they are abled by law and PC attitueds to keep their culture... if you had to move to a new land for work, and had the option of keeping what was fimilar wouldn''t you?
They are coming here againt the will of the American people, so it is an invasion.
Your arguing semantics... call it what you want, its not an organised orcastrated atempt to overthrow the US... its simply mexicans dealing with their problems the only way they know how... by leaving mexico.
They are destroying our hospitals and emergency rooms, filling our prisons and causing the quality of our education to decline and the expense to rise.
That may be true, but it dosn''t mean when Paco sets out to cross the Rio Grand he has dreams of being a drain on the american economcy and eventually bringing about its demise... he just wants a job... until you understand why people act the way they do, it will be imposible to deal with it effectivly.
We need to stop it and stop it now.
Yes, there should be some politcal fixes for imigration... the boarder should be better controled... but, that won''t stop the ones that are here from breeding... faster than you...
curmudgeon
Posts: 2882
What makes this an invasion . . .
1/10/2006 5:04:57 PM
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. . . is the support, encouragement and cooperation of the Mexican government. Maybe is we put a Hellfire missle through the window of Vincente''s mansion he would get the message.
sidewalk_cipher
Posts: 1872
Re: What makes this an invasion . . .
1/11/2006 9:22:02 AM
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is the support, encouragement and cooperation of the Mexican government.
LIke I said, their dealing with their problems the only way they know how... by leaving... I don''t think this is part of Fox''s master plan of taking over the united States.
Maybe is we put a Hellfire missle through the window of Vincente''s mansion he would get the message.
Thats why the world hates us... no respect for other, we never stop to anaylys the situation, just blow it up, be a bad ass, and that will fix everything.
For someone who claims to be a genius, your rather slow. launching missles at mexico would do nothing but cause trouble... do ever think about your ridiculous statments? Or do you just like the sound of killing people you think inferior to you?
curmudgeon
Posts: 2882
Someone said war never solved anything . . .
1/11/2006 9:42:44 AM
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. . . except slavery, Nazism, Fascism and Communism.
To tell you the truth, I don''t put a lot of deep thought into my responses to you, kinda like talkin'' to a three year old. I have been know to use hyperbole, a fact that is probably lost on you.
sidewalk_cipher
Posts: 1872
Re: Someone said war never solved anything . . .
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Someone said war never solved anything except slavery, Nazism, Fascism and Communism.
And so thats supposed to show how killing mexicans is a viable solution to imigration?
To tell you the truth, I don''t put a lot of deep thought into my responses to you
It shows... I don''t think you put deep thought into any of your posts... you just type up what sounds good to you at the time... and I think its telling that so often what sounds good to you is basicly kill people you think inferior. Kinda like a constant frudian slip...
kinda like talkin'' to a three year old.
Then your kids must be retards if you never really think about what your saying to them... ""yea johhny drink that Draino sounds good to me...""
I have been know to use hyperbole, a fact that is probably lost on you.
No... its not... what gets me is thats ALL you use... you never stop with the smart ass comments and think about things... You act like your ""hyperbole"" are legitimate anwsers to problems.... thats stupid.
Markx
Posts: 114
Homer, a foreign spy? Is too much to swallow
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We are at war, because we don''t agree what ""America"" really means. Poor Jenni failed in her debate today because she couldn''t quite define it.
""I am not afraid to take Homer on?"" she said proudly. Well, now it is too late to turn the pages back in time.
I took it as if Homer was fed up with people trying to ""extort"" (if I heard corrently) the meaning of America to use to their own limited aims.
We are at war, but with outselves. Curmy, you are trying to externalize the blame on the ""Mexicans."" The blame is here as Cipher said. The blending of races will occur so what. We could also benefit from learning a little Spanish. Their food is better than ""Taco Bell.""
When it comes down to it.... the question was asked long ago... ""Do we serve our country or our family first?""
The debate will linger into infinity.
Homer, we could all learn from him.
curmudgeon
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Every country, every place . . .
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. . decides by a kind of consensus what to call themselves, the individuals. Folks in Los Angeles call themselves Angelinos. Why? Because they like! Folks from Mexico call themselves Mexicans in gringo or Mexicano/Mexicana in Spanish or Tex-Mex. Citizens of the U.S. call themselves Americans and the term American is recoginzed as the proper adjective to describe U.S. citizens worldwide. You seem to be the only one who has a problem distinguishing between the two. Mexicans are not Americans nor do they have the right to cross freely into this country just because of some perceived injust more than 150 years ago.
Now, while all spys are traitors, not all traitors are spys. Folks who work for the interest of a foreign government against the interest of the U.S. are traitors. Comprende?
Markx
Posts: 114
You are not a racist, just very unbalanced.
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I''m convince you are trying to fight the Iraqi War here. Vicarious gratification.
You are at war with Homer? Mexicans? Me? You are sick, a sickly coward.
curmudgeon
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As stated earlier . . .
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. . . the U.S. which would include me as a loyal American, is at war with Mexico. If you are a Mexican or someone collaborating with Mexico that would be you. If you are a loyal American, of course, it wouldn''t. The same holds for ole Homer.
You seem to be the one who has the back problem.
dannoynted1
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americano! americano! comprende?
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americano !americano
Posted on January 11, 2006 at 02:11:33 AM by dannoynted1
ok a grand style miss trejo had this morning on KEYS concerning her deep ""reciting of the pledge of allegiance
though she could have stated it ""in her own words""
she forgot the ""flag"" part though
i prefer the ""one nation under GOD,
INDIVISIBLE with LIBERTY and JUSTICE FOR ALL!
i mean that is what ""home of the brave""
is all about!
i too am ""an american""
but i know that justice is politically subjective that is when the ""job opportunities"" are modifiable!
fourty five dollars is all yanqui
for one americano?
roe v wade ring a bell?
lets not forget supreme court case of 1977!
claiming its not the fault of the child
dannoynted1
Posts: 159
Re: We are at war! ole curmy on watt meds?
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Even in WWII there were disloyal immigrants. Japanese immigrants on Hawaii provided the intelligence necessary for them Empire of Japan to successfully attack Pearl Harbor.
yeah and?
we did cut off their oil and?
what did hawaiian japs know about the why their ""friends"" were asking about the weather?
uss arizona my dear watson!
that the communists hope to use to defeat us. They knew they could never defeat us militarily. The will use the ballot, defeat us from the inside. Ole Homer is an operative of a foreign government.
au contrare
the commies built the wall idioto
so if homer is for the wall then he would be a communist!
get your history straight!~
OKAY CHEW ON THAT FAT FOR A WHILE
curmudgeon
Posts: 2882
Drop . . .
1/11/2006 7:44:42 AM
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. . . the crack pipe and step away from the keyboard!
Anyone who thinks the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor was justified is either on crack or dare I say it . . . an idiot.
Markx
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antiseptic
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One work curmy, antiseptic. You are giving this board a bad breath. Your argument are too racially charged against Mexican. My wife and her family by the way are Hispanic.
Your hate I would not allow into my household. My children I hope will never come across someone like you.
curmudgeon
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Your wife . . .
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. . . and her family may indeed be from Spain but I suspect that she is Mexican like most of the others who use that label around here.
Markx
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YOU R AT WAR WITH YOURSELF
1/11/2006 10:40:00 AM
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You biggest enemy is not Mexico. It is yourself. You need to find an enemy to transfer all your frustrations and shortcomings.
Hold yourself accountable. We all have to fit in to this world.
curmudgeon
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Everyone has . . .
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. . . a degree of frustration, I suppose. As far as shortcoming, everyone has those, you would certainly know.
That said, the issue is not me but an invasion of the U.S. by millions of Mexicans. Some say they have a right to be here. I call those who say that traitors and colaborators.
Markx
Posts: 114
Curmy, why do u want a racial war?
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Get a life.
curmudgeon
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I have a life . . .
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. . . a very interesting one, I might add. I don''t want a war. The U.S. didn''t invade Mexico (lately) they are invading us. Don''t want a war, tell the Mexicans to stay in Mexico unless they chose to enter the U.S. legally. Simple!
sidewalk_cipher
Posts: 1872
Re: I have a life . . .
1/11/2006 4:50:05 PM
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If you deal is you just don''t like illegal imigration, why call it a war? Thats your silly ""hyperbole"" again. Seriously, if all you care about is illegal imigration, start writing your congressmen, join the minutemen, quite whining and turning it into a ""i''m beter than you"" debate, and argue for better imigration laws.
curmudgeon
Posts: 2882
If we can have a war . . .
1/11/2006 8:06:46 PM
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. . . on poverty, a war on drugs and a war on terror why not a war on wetbacks?
HardcoreHarry
Posts: 1757
In the Spirit of Shock and Awe...
1/11/2006 8:14:20 PM
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we can call this war...
""WOW!!!""
=chuckle=
Hardcore Harry
Wild Ape
Posts: 2743
Art of War
1/12/2006 8:05:44 AM
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Sidewalk you miss Curm''s point. Ever read Sun Tzu''s Art of War. I''d prefer that you don''t because it would make Spengler read like popcorn.
Mexico is using tactics against us as though we were the enemy in every action they make. Don''t think of a war in the conventional sense.
Elwood Blues
Posts: 253
The point we seem to be missing..
1/12/2006 11:56:28 AM
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..with regards to walls,illegal immigration,ect.is terrorism.
After 9/11,it''s been clearly demonstrated that terrorists can and will attack us on our own soil.Despite the ""wartime"" Prezdent''s assertions,the invasion of Iraq isn''t making a dent in the radical Islamist ""Death to America"" factions.In fact,the argument can be made that Bush''s actions have actually fueled such sentiment.
That being said..if you''re a small band of terrorists with a few suitcase bombs,and you''re looking for the easiest,most inconspicuous way to smuggle yourself and your bombs into the country..where would you attempt entry into the U.S.? Through Canada?..maybe,but it would be difficult,as the Canadians tend to be a bit picky about who they allow into the country.Entry from the east or west is extremely difficult..which leaves the south border..a little over 2,000 miles long,stretching across four states.
Couple that with Mexico''s almost non-existent immigration policy,and the fact that countries to the south of Mexico have hundreds and hundreds of rebel factions that would be more than happy to help groups like Al-Quaida attack America (remember..the enemy of my enemy is my friend)..and it''s easy to see that the most convienient and expedient way to enter the U.S. is via the south borders.
IMO..the threat of terrorism is the most compelling argument for tightly securing the Mexican border..not who''s more ""American"" or race baiting arguments perpetuated by ""advocates"" that serve no purpose other than to fan the flames of racial divisivness for their own ends.
curmudgeon
Posts: 2882
Protecting the U.S./Mexican . . .
1/12/2006 12:08:09 PM
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. . . from terroristinfiltration is certainly an aspect of the problem. How can you strip search little old ladies and make babies take their shoes off in airports when we let million of folk walk across our southern border completely unvetted.
Jaime F Kenedeno
Posts: 6
WATTA YA SKEERED OF ERIC
5/26/2006 12:12:59 AM
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""We The People""?
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Cant yall guys feel that rumble?
The City Council and Loyd Neal are fixin to take a tumble.
Is it true the company that hires city employees is insured by LLoyd?
Not of London either!
Remember Eric, my goal is to engage the average citizen in the formulation of public policy.
Are you against informing the Public in a balanced manner?
WATT Rule did I violate so as to be censored?
If you are against Freedom of Speech then erase ME.
