Eric immaturity and the Alienation of a loyal group of Good People known as the threadsters

HardcoreHarry
Posts: 2921 Eric, I have no idea what you were telling the folks answering the phone
2/1/2008 10:28 PM But, whatever it was, it was not being forwarded to me in a meaningful manner.


I had no idea you didn't have the books there, otherwise I would not have sat outside the station for an hour and a half! (Just for the record, the last half hour was giving you the benefit of doubt). I can think of a lot more things that I would rather do than sit outside a building on Leopard with street urchins and nasty ole HOs milling about.


=chuckle=


The time spent outside the station thinking got me to thinking that the entire arrangement is completely cattywhompass- backarsewards. If it were me who had borrowed the books I would be traversing hell and high water enduring hazards of mythic proportions to make the books were returned IN PERSON and on bended knee (as I am currently missing that portion of my anatomy lets just agree that it would be the "proverbial bended knee??!!!)


How about we make proper arrangements for next time. Today I left mad enough to kick a puppy (yes the proverbial variety!) and seriously began plotting assort acts of unthinkable mayhem like giving the Pope and the College of Cardinals and the entire New England Patriot's Coaching Staff wedgies and noogies!!!!

No it t’wernt purdy at all!


=growls menacingly=


Right now I am even contemplating subjecting you to the scrutiny of the Fabulous Tiki God, AHMNATAWOHMAN!!


Email me at my wife's email addy and I will forward my address in Port Aransas, I am not really up to driving back out to CC to sit on Leopard again any time soon.


If you would rather, I can send you the P.O. Box here in Port A so you can mail them instead.


I will tell you that it will win no points from AHNATAWOHMAN on He-Manliness, Courage, and Bodacious Acts of Bravery if you mail them.

However, if it closes the chapter on this episode (=Wahahahaha= Chapter...get it???...ahh never mind!...Heh!) it might perhaps be overlooked just this once.


AHMNATAWOHMAN wants a pink shirt form you closet as penance to restore you to you former position in the Tribe.


Hardcore Harry,

Chief of tribe Hardcore


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A Trusted Friend Or Is He Selling Out The Congressmen of The Hispanic Caucus Attending A Reception Hosted By Raul Tapia & C2 Group

Calurosa bienvenida a nuevo embajador mexicano

Líderes nacionales y una delegación de congresistas del Caucus Hispano se dieron cita en una recepción para darle la bienvenida a Arturo Sarukhan, nuevo Embajador de México ante Estados Unidos. El embajador, quien tiene una carrera diplomática impecable y sirvió de consejero de política exterior del presidente mexicano, Felipe Calderón, en las recientes elecciones, departió con los asistentes la recepción ofrecida por Raúl Tapia, de C2 Group, quien, luego de destacar las cualidades profesionales y su larga amistad con el embajador, le recordó a la audiencia la importancia de las relaciones bilaterales entre ambos países y el apoyo incondicional para asegurar el éxito de su gestión. Sarukhan, por su parte, se mostró conmovido por las muestras de afecto y en parte de su discurso dijo: "Estados Unidos y México no son vecinos, frontera o socios. Somos una familia". También dijo que la reforma migratoria tan esperada en este país tiene que empezar en México, creando mas fuentes de trabajo y mejorando la calidad de vida de la sociedad mexicana.

Gloria Murat; Nando Gómez; Lencho Rendón, de LR Global; el embajador mexicano Arturo Sarukhan y Raúl Tapia, de C2 Group y anfitrión de la recepción. Con ellos a la derecha, Solomón Ortíz, congresista de Texas.

Anne Alonzo, posó para Washington Hispanic, junto al embajador mexicano. También vemos a Raúl Tapia y Jacobo Prado, de Asuntos Latinos de la Embajada de México.

El nuevo embajador mexicano, (izq.), escucha a los congresistas Xavier Becerra, (centro) de California y Solomon Ortíz, de Texas.

El embajador mexicano, Arturo Sarukhan (izq,). disfrutó de la vista del Capitolio Nacional desde la terraza durante la recepción en su honor, escuchando instrucciones por parte de Raúl Tapia. A la derecha, le observa Patricia Gaitán, de Chambers López & Gaitán.

Carlos M. Sada, (centro) ministro para Asuntos Congresionales de la Embajada de México conversa con Mauricio Celis. Les observa Armando Beteta.

Robert Menendez senador de New Jersey, asistió al homenaje al embajador mexicano.

Foro sobre Política de Dialogue on Diversity

Bettie Baca, (izq.), maestra de ceremonias del foro posó junto a Maria Cristina Caballero, presidenta de "Dialogue on Diversity", quien recibe una resolución del congreso en elogio a "Dialogue" de manos de Hilda Solís, congresista de California. Les observa Ivelisse Estrada, de Univisión.

Rubén Hinojosa, congresista de Texas, se dirige a los asistentes.

La doctora Dorothy Height, adquirió el premio "Life Achievement" de "Dialogue". Ella es la presidenta del National Council of Negro Women.

Emilio González, director ejecutivo para "Public Affairs and Strategic Alliances" de Versión, habló a los invitados al Foro acerca de sistemas de comunicaciones.

I''m simply a completely worthless jerk-off with no redeeming qualities whatsoever. i thought so...no wonder ..........

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The Serpent IN the Garden January 14, 1996 Houston: Inaction Allowed Abuser To Roam For 10 Years.

If this was leaked to the media did the Corpus Christi Caller Times tell us about this pedophile?

Did the Caller publish any stories on this matter?

And the CCISD Board did they inform the community?

The Serpent IN the Garden January 14, 1996 Houston: CCISD board President Henry Nuss AQUIESCED. CCISD eagerly supplied pedophile with young patients - even after he had been publicly charged.

CORPUS CHRISTI - James Plaisted was a respected child psychologist, a deacon in one of the city's largest Baptist congregations and the father of four.



He also was a child molester so brazen he escorted little girls into church and fondled them under his coat while listening to the sermon.



Parents knew. So did church pastors, school officials and state regulators. But few did anything to stop him, and those who tried were remarkably unsuccessful.



It took 10 years to get Plaisted behind bars. Only he knows how many children he molested during that time.



Last month, Plaisted - already serving a two-year federal prison term for luring a Texas patient to Boston to continue molesting her -was brought back to Corpus Christi in chains.

He pleaded guilty to sexually assaulting four girls and was sentenced to 40 years in prison.



State regulators have yet to revoke his license to practice psychology.



""I think the Plaisted case is the model of what happens when the system fights with itself," said Susan Snyder, a Kingsville attorney and former prosecutor who tried to lock up Plaisted in 1992.



""Obviously, there have been safeguards in place to prevent this man all along, but either (state officials) were too lazy or too busy, or too scared of the politics of going and yanking this man's license," Snyder said. ""It's not the legal system failing. It's the people within the legal system that refuse to let the legal system work."



It's not as if no one tried.



Carmen Alvarado, the mother of the first child to accuse Plaisted more than 10 years ago, sought criminal charges against the therapist and filed an ethics complaint with the Texas Board of Examiners of Psychologists. She alleged that Plaisted had fondled her son's penis during a late-night counseling session.



Alvarado called the Parkdale Baptist Church, where Plaisted, 46, was a deacon.



""They said they were leaving it in God's hands," she recalled.

""I don't think they were thinking straight at the time."



She went to other parents. She got no help.



In the end, it was just her son's word against Plaisted, who told a Corpus Christi jury in 1986 that the 6-year-old child was a habitual liar and a pyromaniac who derived sexual excitement from setting fires. It didn't help that a new prosecutor was assigned to the case just before trial.



The jury acquitted Plaisted; his practice continued.



""It made me mad because when I went for help, all I asked was for them to testify," Alvarado recalled. ""We lost because my son was the only witness we had."



""It was a very tough call to make," said another victim's mother. ""And looking back, I really should have crucified him, but I didn't. I chose not to after talking to my attorney. He told me it would just really traumatize my daughter."



The Corpus Christi woman, who asked not to be identified, said she did confront Plaisted and his wife, who were neighbors in 1984, when her daughter was allegedly molested while spending the night with one of Plaisted's daughters.



""He did not deny it," she said. ""He said he could have done it



in his sleep."



Plaisted's wife laughingly added that she and her husband often made love at night, and he would not remember the next morning, the woman said.



The woman, who was also a member of the Parkdale Baptist Church, recalled telling church officials later about Plaisted's molestations.



""But it didn't seem to make any difference," she said. ""The church really backed him up, and a lot of people left the church after that."



Plaisted's attorney, Doug Tinker, refused to allow the Chronicle to interview his client. The criminal defense lawyer, who earlier this year represented Yolanda Saldivar, who was convicted of murdering Tejano star Selena, declined to discuss the Plaisted case.



The victims' families have since sued the church for negligence, but Parkdale's lawyer argues the congregation should not be held responsible for Plaisted's actions.



""It would be the church's wish to get this thing resolved without causing any additional hurt to anyone," said attorney Van Huseman. But he added, ""If a child gets molested in the middle of the service, how does that get to be the pastor's fault?"



Plaisted - a Nebraska native who served in the Army in Vietnam -came to Corpus Christi in 1982 with impeccable credentials, having earned his doctorate in clinical and child psychology from Auburn University in Alabama in 1981.



He quickly built a private practice, and over the years, developed a good reputation as an expert on brain dysfunction.



The Corpus Christi school district, along with local pediatricians, eagerly supplied him with young patients - even after he had been publicly charged. Members of the church also sought his help, and he had hospital privileges at the prestigious Driscoll Children's Hospital, a South Texas institution known both for quality care and charity.



Neighbors described Plaisted as pleasant, reserved, well-spoken. He was methodical, they said, and liked to work on projects around the house.



Plaisted recruited some of his victims from broken homes, showering the children with gifts, inviting them and their parents to Thanksgiving dinners. One 9-year-old girl who spent the night with Plaisted's daughter told prosecutors the psychologist molested her on the sofa in his living room while he and the children watched the movie "Home Alone"

on video.



He curried favor with his victims' parents by lending them money and refusing repayment, or by buying them air conditioners and other gifts. One mother even acted as a character witness for the therapist during the Alvarado trial, unaware that her own child was being molested.



""The bottom line is this guy had complaints filed against him at the psychology board - and they are serious - and the board doesn't notify the school about the complaints," said Jerry Boswell, director of the Citizens Commission on Human Rights, a group funded by the Church of Scientology (SEE CORRECTION) that documents cases such as Plaisted's. ""And the school is still referring children to this guy."



Corpus Christi school administrators said they used Plaisted infrequently for psychological testing of students, although school records and correspondence indicate he was a consultant from 1983 until he was indicted for child sexual assault in late 1992.



School administrators have identified records of five students referred to him for psychological testing between 1985 and 1992. There are no records prior to 1985.



School board President Henry Nuss, who has served on the board for seven years, said he first heard of the Plaisted case when he was contacted by the Houston Chronicle last week.



""We certainly should be more selective in who we're using," he said.



After Plaisted was charged in the Alvarado case in April 1986, Robert J. Garcia, the school district's special education director, wrote to the state psychology board to ask about the psychologist's record. The agency's executive director replied that Plaisted's license had been suspended, but because the psychologist was in the process of suing to get it back, he remained licensed to practice. The letter gave no details about the nature of the complaints.



""He was given a clean bill of health by the only agency that had anything to say about it," said Dr. Adrian Haston, a psychologist who coordinates the school district's psychological services, and who, years ago, shared an office with Plaisted.



Haston emphasized that none of the schoolchildren referred to Plaisted were molested. ""And we never had anything untoward, any problems of that sort," he said.



Asked why the district would risk using a psychologist once accused of being a child molester, Haston replied, ""This is something the district did, and you can ask the director of special education why."



Garcia said in a recent telephone interview that he could not remember whether he knew about the child molestation charges at the time he wrote to the psychology board.



""All I know is we asked for what his status was and they said he could still practice," he said. ""We knew he was under review, but we didn't know what for.



""Look, the state board of psychologists, they're the ones that allowed him to continue to practice," Garcia added angrily.

""If anyone should be asked as to why this guy was allowed to continue, it should be the state board of psychology."



Pressed for further details, Garcia abruptly ended the interview and hung up the phone.



Although Plaisted was acquitted in August 1986 in the Alvarado case, the psychology board continued its investigation and ruled in November of that year that Plaisted had violated professional standards.



The board officially suspended his license for two years, but said he would be allowed to resume his practice in three months.



Meanwhile, Plaisted challenged the suspension in state district court in Austin, arguing the psychology board had unfairly considered allegations that had not been introduced during his hearing, denying him the opportunity to defend himself against them. The judge agreed, and in January 1987 reversed Plaisted's suspension.



While the board was investigating Plaisted's case, they were contacted by Corpus Christi psychologist George Kramer.

Kramer, who had hired Plaisted in 1982 before Plaisted was licensed, told the board to subpoena records of the state Department of Human Resources. It did, and found other instances of alleged molestation by Plaisted.



In April 1989, the board reached an agreement with the psychologist that allowed him to keep his license if he agreed to be supervised for 11/2years. Plaisted was to treat children only in the presence of an associate or in a location where he could be observed by a television monitor. He also was to pay to have Corpus Christi psychologist Joseph Horvat supervise his casework.



Horvat met with Plaisted weekly, but after a year - convinced that Plaisted was doing nothing wrong - he recommended the supervision be terminated six months early. The board decided to continue the supervision.



""I have found no evidence in any way, shape or form of any behavior on his part which could be in any way construed as unprofessional or unethical," Horvat wrote to the board.



Included in one of his reports to the board was a review of Plaisted's treatment of an 8-year-old girl - a child Plaisted was later charged with molesting.



The board's general counsel, Barbara Holthaus, acknowledged past actions taken by the agency were inadequate.



""With hindsight, of course it wasn't appropriate, because look at what happened," Holthaus said. But she said the board has since added lay people to its ranks and has a new, tougher state law giving it better enforcement powers.



""Now, if we get a report that a psychologist is molesting a client, we can go before a judge and say we want to temporarily suspend the license," she said.



Holthaus said the board has filed a motion to revoke Plaisted's license, but Plaisted is fighting it.



""It's all kind of moot, because he's incarcerated," she said.



Soon after Plaisted completed his board-ordered supervision, Corpus Christi police received new information from state child welfare workers that Plaisted had been molesting girls at his office, in church and at home in his hot tub.



Former detective Eric Michalak, who now works in Colorado, remembered taking the Plaisted case to a Nueces County assistant district attorney for prosecution.



""He wanted to get a warrant for the doctor and arrest him, because we had very strong evidence against him," Michalak said. ""We had multiple victims and you had a guy in the position he was in, where he had access to all these victims.

You would want to take quick action rather than let it go on for so long."



The prosecutor was overruled by then-District Attorney Grant Jones, Michalak said. ""(Jones) just said, `We're not getting a warrant. We're taking our time.' He wanted the kids reinterviewed by one of the prosecutors.



""Any time you go after someone like that, there's a lot of politics that come into play," Michalak added. ""Instead of stepping in right then, and bringing it out in the open and taking it to a grand jury (for indictment), they delayed."



Jones contends that any delay in prosecution was an effort ""to tie the case down tight. We didn't want to lose him twice,"

said Jones, on whose watch Plaisted was acquitted in the Alvarado case.



Jones called it ""outrageous" the psychology board still hasn't revoked Plaisted's license.



""They should have done it in 1986," he said. ""What they want to do is wait around until you go to trial and you convict him, and then they come in behind your conviction and revoke his license. Well, what's he doing in the meantime? He could be out in the community molesting kids for two years."



Michalak said the case was finally taken to the grand jury several months later after he leaked the information about Plaisted's investigation to the local media.



""It was taking too long, and it wasn't being handled like another case," he said. ""And it was because he was so prominent in the community."



Plaisted was finally indicted in Corpus Christi in October 1992. He posted bond, closed his practice in Corpus Christi, and negotiated an agreement with the psychology board to place his license on inactive status until he could prove his innocence.



He then moved to Boston, where he enrolled in Boston University Law School and successfully completed his first year of studies by May 1994.



While in law school, Plaisted began calling a former patient - the girl whose treatment Horvat had reviewed in Corpus Christi. Plaisted convinced the girl's mother - who was also a patient of his - to bring the girl to Boston for additional therapy.



Plaisted's plans were foiled when a policeman setting up a speed trap in his neighborhood accidentally intercepted on his police radio a sexually explicit telephone call between the girl and Plaisted, who was using a cordless phone.



FBI agents were called in, six other calls were taped, and Plaisted was arrested on June 3, 1994, after he met the girl, then 13, and her mother at the train station and took them to a budget motel.



""The mother wasn't aware" of the molestations, said Adolfo Aguilo, an assistant Nueces County district attorney. ""The mother had a borderline personality disorder - she developed dependency on people -and unfortunately for her the person she developed a dependency on was Dr. Plaisted."



Sgt. Michael Harpster, a police detective from suburban Boston who helped arrest Plaisted, described him as ""very congenial, almost shy."



""He'd answer questions very courteously, but he didn't show any outward signs of knowing the seriousness of the situation," Harpster said.



Last January, Plaisted was sentenced by a federal judge in Boston to a two-year prison term after he pleaded guilty to transporting a minor across state lines to engage in illegal sexual activity.



The Corpus Christi conviction and sentence came almost a year later.



In the end, Plaisted admitted molesting four victims. But prosecutors say no one will ever know how many others failed to come forward.



""I imagine there could be several other victims. Through his practice and the church he probably had access over the years to thousands of children," said Aguilo, the Corpus Christi prosecutor who eventually secured Plaisted's guilty plea.



""To me, any kid that came in contact with this guy was a victim in some way or another," added Michalak.



When Plaisted was sentenced last month, it was a bitter emotional meeting for many of his young victims and their parents, who had been called as witnesses in case Plaisted decided against the plea bargain.



Parents said Plaisted stood up straight, held his head high and looked the judge in the eye. And when he saw the relatives of his former victims, he acted as if he were attending a reunion of old friends, they said. One parent said Plaisted looked as if he thought they were there as supporters or character witnesses.



""He turned around and gave the families a big smile," Alvarado said. ""I couldn't believe it."



Alvarado, who sued Plaisted in civil court, has received a settlement for an undisclosed amount. Her son, now a teen-ager, is still struggling with his past abuse, she said, and she continues to feel betrayed by those who would not join her in speaking out years ago.



""I told them if they had helped me in the beginning, none of this would have happened," she said.



Plaisted timeline



Key dates in the career of Dr. James R. Plaisted:



January 1983: Licensed to practice psychology in Texas.



October 1984: Investigated by Texas Department of Human Resources for allegedly molesting a neighbor's child.



April 1986: Charged in criminal case for allegedly fondling a boy during therapy.



August 1986: Acquitted by jury in Corpus Christi.



October 1992: Indicted for sexual abuse of three Corpus Christi girls.



December 1992: Closed Corpus Christi office; moved to Boston to begin law school.



June 1994: Arrested by FBI agents for luring a 13-year-old former Corpus Christi patient to Boston.



January 1995: Indicted by Corpus Christi grand jury on three counts of aggravated sexual assault for incidents years earlier involving the same girl.



January 1995: Sentenced to two years in federal prison in Boston case.



Dec. 7, 1995: Sentenced to 40 years in state prison by a Corpus Christi judge after pleading guilty to five counts of aggravated sexual assault of a child.

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Re: ATTENTION EVERYONE
5/21/2007 10:48:06 AM
Eric,

Read and understood.

Good luck at rooting out the vermin. We don''t need personal attacks on anyone at any level.
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Re: ATTENTION EVERYONE
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I understand and agree, but request clarification on one point. Several of us have expressed support for Ron Paul and have posted things in his favor as a presidential candidate. Is this considered political campaigning and is that now prohibited?
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Re: ATTENTION EVERYONE
5/21/2007 2:05:15 PM
I have no problem with that either.

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That means if I come out for Hillary y''all can''t call me obscene names now.
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I guess I find it hard to understand what makes some people tick. I''ve been around quite a while and for the life of me I can''t see why anyone would want to come on a site like this and make personal attacks to the owner, knowing or should knowing full well thatt the verbage they spew will not be taken seriously.

I''m like some of the others on this board. I don''t listen to the Eric VonWade show all the time, because I don''t listen to the radio that much. I don''t agree with him all the time and disagree on some issues. So, I don''t think I''m ""sucking up"" to him. I just enjoy coming to this site and reading the comments, making some and getting different perspectives. I agree, that every one should respect the rules. If not, find another place to vent.
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Re: ATTENTION EVERYONE
5/21/2007 3:43:31 PM
i agree, again

wonder what brought this on?
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Re: ATTENTION EVERYONE
5/21/2007 4:27:17 PM
I''ve been on here a while...all the way back to the days when it was just Randall, Mark, Curmudgeon, Curtis Rock and a few oldies that pop in now and then.

This has always been a friendly site for the exchange of information and even a gathering place for friends. We have been through a lot together including the loss of a respected and well liked member member...Blindbob, and were even their to provide comfort to his beloved when the time came.

Many of us have met and, even through heated exchange and vast differences in Political, Economic and Social beliefs...we have remainded a solid force.

I agree to the terms...it is Eric''s house and we are, from the oldest THREADSTER to the newest lurker, guests here. We should act accordingly.

The 1st Amendment carries a lot of spirit here, but never forget that that applies only to the FEDERAL government in that ""Congress shall make no law"" to the contrary. When you come here your contract is with Mr. Von Wade.

If one likes that not...then they can leave back to whence they came.
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Agreed.
5/21/2007 5:01:01 PM
Eric has been very generous and allows everyone to say what they want within reason. He''s had the same rules forever now. It''s a shame some new people join on this site who don''t even deserve their handles to be mentioned ruin the experience. I''m assuming they''ve been removed and it''s for the better.
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Re: Agreed.
5/21/2007 5:53:07 PM
I really do appreciate all of you who exhibit the maturity to respect me and this venue and not use this as some sort of tantrum center. Lets get to having fun again and keep up the great stuff you''ve been doing! Thanks again!
CommonSense
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Harry!
5/21/2007 8:55:22 PM
Eric says it is ok to pillage again.

Long live Tribe Hardcore!
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Did he say anything . . .
5/21/2007 9:00:05 PM
. . . about rape?
CommonSense
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Re: Did he say anything . . .
5/21/2007 9:02:55 PM
I guess it depends on what your definition of fun is.
Redneck Cabbie
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Re: Re: Agreed.
5/21/2007 10:11:11 PM
Running a message board can be a thankless pain in the butt. Especially for someone with your visibility.

There is a fine line between free speech and yelling ""fire"" in a theater.

I had a weekly radio show in Las Vegas as well as maintaining a message board. I had a couple of guys whose posts on my board nearly cost me my job. It didn''t matter how many disclaimers I used. I finally gave it up.

Good luck, and keep up the good work.
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Re: Re: Agreed.
5/21/2007 10:45:05 PM
Eric, I read and understand. If I am the offending party, please I would appreciate a personal e-mail. No intent here to offend people, but, we do talk politics here, as I understand it, and politics are real and do affect real life. No intent but a healthy debate inteded. :)
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Re: ATTENTION EVERYONE
5/21/2007 6:09:09 PM
Aye aye.
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Re: ATTENTION EVERYONE
5/21/2007 6:34:47 PM
Agreed

I must have missed something.

Give the perpetrators hell Eric!
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Re: Re: ATTENTION EVERYONE
5/21/2007 7:06:24 PM
Eric, this is your train, you rob it the way you see fit.


(pleae don''t make me explain that line)
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Re: ATTENTION EVERYONE
5/21/2007 8:15:06 PM
OoooooKaaaaayyyyy
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Re: ATTENTION EVERYONE
5/21/2007 8:28:56 PM
Read and understood
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Re: ATTENTION EVERYONE
5/22/2007 9:24:39 AM
Read and understood,Eric..

It''s your house,you make the rules..I''m good with that.
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Re: Re: ATTENTION EVERYONE
5/22/2007 4:01:09 PM
It''s your rhubarb. You let us rub it, and I will follow your guidelines on how it shall be rubbed.

If I want to rub rhubarbs in another manner, I will set up my own page.
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Re: ATTENTION EVERYONE
5/22/2007 4:13:42 PM
Agreed!
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Re: ATTENTION EVERYONE
5/23/2007 9:09:09 AM
No problems here !

Is Timothy a girl or gay?

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CommonSense
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Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/8/2007 7:37:41 PM
I posted this within another thread, but I thought I would give it it's own thread so y'all won't overlook it.

I had to type manually because it is a pdf document. I don't want to link to another website that Eric wouldn't approve of.(competitor)

Intergraph Case Number 07-04210125

At approximately 1:52 PM on April 21, 2007, I contacted the victim at 3315 S. Alameda (Doctor's Regional Emergency Room) in reference to a sexual assault report. When contacted, victim #1 had advised that she and suspect #1 (As of a month ago) were boyfriend and girlfriend. Victim added that suspect #1 had been in contact with her since the time of the break-up. Victim added that at approximately 2 am on April 21, 2007, suspect #1 had sent her a text message via her cell phone that he was outside of her apartment. Victim advised that she let suspect #1 into her apartment due to avoid waking up her child. Victim added that suspect #1 was intoxicated. Victim added that this led to him (suspect #1) touching and kissing each other which lated led to sexual intercourse against her will. The assault in question occured in her living room. Victim kept adding that she still loves suspect #1. Sexual assault exam requested was signed by reporting officer.

Case: 07-421125

Y'all can draw your own conclusions. In my opinion, there doesn't seem to be enough here to actually make charges. I'm waiting to see what the rape kit will reveal.

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Republic69
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Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/8/2007 8:42:47 PM
Did you not read the part about SEXUAL INTERCOURSE AGAINST HER WILL? Despite she says ""she still loves him"", you can love someone and still get raped by them. You can love your wife/girlfriend and she can love you back, but forcing someone into sex, is RAPE, and it does not matter if you love them or not.

If your wife says no to sex, but you still force yourself into her, that is rape, its domestic rape.
CommonSense
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Here is a novel idea Republic.....
5/8/2007 9:36:33 PM
drop the attitude there spanky. I posted this for everyone to see the report and posted my own opinion. The report speaks for itself.

I''m glad you understand the concept of ""no means no"". That is a concept that most of us men learn at an early age.

Once again I will point out to you as I have for others. Let the investigation play out. The rape kit will hopefully fill in the blanks that the report is missing.

Lighten up man.
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The problem...
5/9/2007 12:14:50 AM
I just think the problem Is that he is engaged and allegedly having sex with another woman.

Secondly, shouldn''t the Chief of Police be doing things to remove people from the streets who are driving while intoxicated, or did he ride his bike to this woman''s house?

I personally like Bryan, I am a little disappointed. I don''t think he''s a rapist by any means, but I think he made some poor judgement. Just goes to show that everyone makes mistakes. I hope he comes back from vacation and continues doing what he''s been doing.
Cal
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Re: The problem...
5/9/2007 7:38:15 AM
Just goes to show that everyone makes mistakes.

Even Melody Cooper? And she should Know better,but did it anyway. So saith the Judge.

Now some people are after her hide.
LONEWOLF
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Re: The problem...
5/9/2007 1:57:36 PM
Kinda funny dontcha think that you ""...don''t think he''s a rapist by any means"" but you take her unsubstantiated claim that he was drunk as gospel truth.
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Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/9/2007 7:56:39 AM
If somebody rapes you,......

I am sorry,.......

but the love is gone.

Pure and simple she wanted to let the whole world know he used her.

Wham bam thank you mam.

That is all it amounted to and she wanted it to mean more.

I didnt, get over it.

Rape is vile!

You don''t love someone after they rape you.

She is desparate.
Republic69
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Re: Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/9/2007 11:35:11 AM
Army of Juan, you are in need of an internship at the Women''s Shelter.

Have you ever heard of Battered Woman Syndrome? Women can be beaten, raped, sodomized, thrown down a flight of stairs, humiliated, and she will still stay with her husband/lover/boyfriend as a result of psychologically been dependent on him as well as financially for her children.

In your mind, Chief Bryan Smith probably should have URINATED on her like the Annaville rapist, maybe then she would not seem so ""desperate""?!
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Re: Re: Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/9/2007 10:16:42 PM
Know all about it. Those women dont call up the media and only file police reports when they are very angry (it takes the anger for them to even file). When they file they dont love the loser. After the begin to ""miss him"" then they think they ""love him"".

The girl is ate up with jealousy and this jealousy was used by the political expedient. They wanted to place the chief under the thumb. Women are the tool of power politics usually it works out more subtle and is held over the head for a favor in the future. You want to go after somebody who beats his spouse check out the divorces of some of our leading men.

You will see this was a political stunt.
Timothy
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Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/9/2007 9:53:36 AM
She is desperate? Do you know how dumb that sounds? He went to her place why? hmmm obviously only he knows but im sure like most men that are engaged or in a relationship with their significant other its purely for SEX he wanted it..she didnt call him he TEXT her..and shes the desperate one? NO shes the smart one for bringing this out in the open and making him think now ""what the heck did i do""..its amazing when people do things wrong and AFTER the fact they want to know WHY are you doing this to me? WHY are you letting the public know this? SO no if it wasnt rape fine, if it was justice will hopefully be served..Chief Bryan Smith has issues, he was always at the Surf Club with his fiancee and even then HE had a roving eye on every little thing that passed by him..i think hes just really high on himself because of the position he holds..I have seen it with my own 2 eyes...Too many people in high positions in this community just need to realize that people are watching
Guido
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Re: Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/9/2007 2:14:17 PM
Unless there is a fairly copious amount of vaginal tearing indicating that the sex was most likely not consensual, this case is going to be a pretty big loser for the prosecution, regardless of whether a rape occurred or not.

First, there are only two witnesses to the alleged offense, the accuser and the accused. Second, any defense attorney worth his salt will point out that the suspect texted her that he was outside--a locked door. The victim will likely be grilled about why she just didn''t call police. Then, he will jump on the fact that she said she still loves him. By the end of her testimony, he will have the jury accepting the premise that she is a jilted woman trying to get her man back by anyway possible.

Is that the truth? We will likely never know the true answer to that. The only thing that is certain is that there is most likely a copious amount of reasonable doubt in this case.

If the alleged victim was raped, she will probably never find justice in this case. If she was not raped, Smith will most likely never clear his name, as the court of public opinion is not contricted by reasonable doubt requirements. The only winners will be the defense attorneys who will make a bundle on this case.

Is that the way it should be? No. Is that the way it is much of the time? Yes.
Cal
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Re: Re: Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/9/2007 3:55:35 PM
The only winners will be the defense attorneys

Should this go to trial,I will be there in a packed courtroom listening very intently to testimony by all parties. Then I will write my answer on a piece of paper,give it to a friend to hold and make/take bets on the verdict of the jury.
LONEWOLF
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/9/2007 4:06:45 PM
This case will never see a courtroom.
Cal
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/9/2007 8:21:31 PM
If the case never goes to court,then I won''t be able to make bets.

Oh well,life will go on with or without Chief Bryan Smith.
CommonSense
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Here is the contradiction in her statement....
5/9/2007 4:25:01 PM
Victim added that this led to him (suspect #1) touching and kissing each other which later led to sexual intercourse against her will.


The end of the statement states that the sex was against her will. However, she seemed a willing participant up to that point. Unfortunately all this statement really shows is her word against his, and we still don''t know if any of this took place or not. Remember the Duke players?

Let the investigation play out.
Guido
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Re: Here is the contradiction in her statement....
5/9/2007 4:57:45 PM
The difference between this and the Duke case is that one of the accused could prove he was innocent.
Timothy
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Re: Re: Here is the contradiction in her statement....
5/9/2007 5:23:52 PM
Here''s the thing he should not have been there anyway..he is ENGAGED!!!!..it makes him look guilty no matter what..and it makes him look exactly what it is a drunk man wanting a booty call at 2AM and they always call on thier ex...awwww poor Bryan Smith..you made yourself look like an ass regardless of the outcome...Next time think with your OTHER HEAD!
CommonSense
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Food for thought Timothy....
5/9/2007 5:42:51 PM
Did this alleged sexual encounter occur that day? We still don''t know. That is when the report was filed but so far that is the only thing indicating that something happened that day if it did.
Timothy
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Re: Food for thought Timothy....
5/9/2007 6:41:59 PM
The truth always comes out :)
Cal
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Re: Re: Food for thought Timothy....
5/9/2007 8:34:05 PM
Since when!!!! :D :D :D

With todays lawyers the truth will never come out!!!
Timothy
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Re: Re: Re: Food for thought Timothy....
5/10/2007 7:30:16 AM
If the truth doesnt come out it wont be because of the attorneys,,it will be simply because of the position Bryan Smith holds in this city, Corpus Christis SUPPOSIBLY Finest are good for this prancing around with their badges and their status and KNOWING that even if the Tex Rangers look into this MOST cases are thrown out simply cause CC Finest never seem to do any wrong...they can speed and NO BIGGIE, shit when i see that i catch right up next to them showing them that if you can do it SO can I..they are little boys with a toy on their side and a toy in their pants ,,and 99.5% know it.. whats good for the goose is good for the gander
Guido
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Food for thought Timothy....
5/10/2007 2:43:20 PM
The difference is, if Bryan Smith was not in his position, this would not be headline news. If he was a welder''s helper, she probably would not have had anything to do with him in the first place. Losing a work-a-day guy would be no biggie and she would find another, easy enough.

Even the report, where she states they were kissing and touching EACH OTHER, indicates that she welcomed him. Yes, Bryan Smith is a dumbass and a lech for making the booty call, but the alleged victim opened the door. She had to know why he was there and perhaps even was glad he was there.

My guess is that she got ticked off when he went back to business as usual. The only person with no fault in this matter is the fiancee'', though I have no idea why she went before the cameras with Smith when the announcement was made. She should have given him his walking papers well before that time.

Yeah, many men are dogs, but many women are also to blame. If a man wants to stray, he doesn''t have to look far to find a skank to stray with.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Food for thought Timothy....
5/10/2007 4:10:59 PM
You know not all women go after men that hold higher positions..some men tend to SEEK women that have no clue WHOM they are, its a POWER thing..shoot i''d rather have a down to earth guy that isnt in the publics eye that way IF and WHEN he were to screw up you don''t look like the idiot that stands with him on his side infront of the media..a woman like that needs to check herself at the door...i''d be SEE YA LATER BABE..Id rather be someones priority as opposed to their option..and thats exactly what he did to both women they were both OPTIONS...i''d be putting that engagement ring on ebay to the highest bidder ..LOL
bigo
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Food for thought Timothy....
5/18/2007 9:42:07 PM
My pappy always said there''s nothing worse that a pissed off woman. I wonder if she''s any kin to the Chiefs ex??

Oh well, I don''t foresee her posting much longer. And good luck getting those personal emails published in the CCCT''s.
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Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/9/2007 10:25:21 PM
I agree with you Timothy except she was desparate. Bryan has a roving eye and all the other Quorum Club Surf Club etc etc etc

But this one was a pre meditated booty call.

I bet there is video as well but it will tell the real story.

She was losing him.

I apologize if it disagrees with you.
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Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/15/2007 1:36:09 PM
smith was drunk, but he wasn''t drinking his pimp juice. old dude slipped.
booty calls are not hard to pull off, engaged or not.
Timothy
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Re: Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/15/2007 2:26:40 PM
Slipped? Hmmm you mean CCPD doesn''t supply those devices that you wear around your neck so when you SLIP you can press it and someone will be there to help you get up? I can buy him some Pimp Juice on Ebay that way next time he WONT SLIP..LOL




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He was just tryin'' . . .
5/15/2007 3:08:03 PM
. . . out that stuff that promises instant male enhancement (I think we just used to refer to this as ""wood"") that is advertised on KEYS.
Cal
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Re: Re: Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/15/2007 3:33:47 PM
Heard at morning coffee break this morning he is getting 6mos vacation as that is how long The Rangers are going to take for the investigation.

I smells da rat!!!
Timothy
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/15/2007 5:18:23 PM
Hmmm just watched the news yup 6 more months and he still states that all sex was CONSENSUAL..i hope all the embarrasment was worth it..he should have bought a FLESHLIGHT if he needed to get off that bad
CommonSense
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I would hate to be a criminal with......
5/15/2007 4:13:53 PM
some of you on the jury. Y''all have already convicted him before the investigation is over. If he is guilty, then he needs to be punished. If he is innocent, then he should be able to continue on with his work.

Keep in mind people...

Everything at this point is her word against his. Hard to convict on that. They need to be able to find physical evidence to support her case. That is why I keep stating that it will be interesting to see what the rape kit reveals. Also remember, that the rape kit can show she had sex, but it may not tell with who if there is no DNA. I hate to keep bringing this up, but remember the Duke case?
Cal
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Re: I would hate to be a criminal with......
5/15/2007 5:30:13 PM
Don''t get us wrong. We agree with you. We are just wondering why six months for the rape kit results.

If I were in that position and I had nothing to hide,I would be screeming bloody murder for a poly test.

Even if he did have consenual sex with why not just come out and say so. Guess he could want his cake and eat it also.

I will not say he is guilty nor will I say he is innocent as I was not there and I do not know the facts of the investigation. I can and as many others can only form an opinion based on what is put out i9n the media. After the job No. 3 in ratings did on the pastor in Portland.I will form an opinion on the other two,
Timothy
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Re: Re: I would hate to be a criminal with......
5/15/2007 6:04:04 PM
Hmmm enough evidence to go infront of the Grand Jury...impressive...cant wait May 25th
CommonSense
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The Mayor called the head of DPS....
5/15/2007 9:11:21 PM
and requested that the investigation be completed sooner. Apparently the lab that will do the testing on the rape kit is understaffed and stated it would take 6 months to complete. However, a phone call to the lab has them completing it in 2-3 months.

Another thing to check is the phone record. They can check to see if the text message was sent at the time she indicates in the report. They may not be able to determine the message.
Cal
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Re: The Mayor called the head of DPS....
5/16/2007 8:33:40 AM
Wonder who hit Garrett on the head to wake him up and make the phone call?

Maybe Gibbs bopped him!! :) :) :)


Well anyway,he did something right.
Timothy
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Re: Re: The Mayor called the head of DPS....
5/16/2007 9:27:34 AM
First off they could have requested to see her cell phone it would show a text message from him and the time sent they dont actually need to pull records, if she was smart she would have locked the message as evidence
Guido
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Re: Re: Re: The Mayor called the head of DPS....
5/17/2007 7:58:54 PM
First of all, six months WAS fast action from the DPS lab. Many cases take up to a year, depending upon the agency. Usually, you just get in line with all the other sex crimes. In order for this woman''s test to move up, obviously someone''s wait, perhaps that 5 year-old girl raped by an uncle, will be longer now.

Sadly, that wait will be for naught, as the defense already seems to be stipulating that sex occured. DNA will not show anything more than who made a deposit, not how forcefully said deposit was placed. There are no ""rape sperms"". There are no semen dressed as pirates boarding the undefended vagina vessel.

In other words, the DNA is actually useless in this case. Henry Garrett grandstanded by calling in a favor, and then could only cut the wait by about 1/2 to 2/3. I suppose he doesn''t pull as much weight as he thought.

Basically, the D.A. will go with her word against his to the Grand Jury. The defense will have no chance to rebut any testimony or offer their own side beyond what is allowed by the prosecution. However, once an indictment is handed down (if it happens), then the defense can go to work.

If a D.A. really wants to indict someone, it will happen. No amount of innocence will prevent it. Grand Juries can be stacked and they can also be hoodwinked. Chucky is pretty good at both.
winston
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Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/18/2007 12:21:14 AM
I believe we had a certified CSI Lab @ CCPD but Skip Noe refused to Recertify it when Alvarez was running for Sheriff.

So we have no lab because of this clown.

Blame him for the next six months.

BTW he voted for a raise for himself and the Waters Group.

What a guy
Timothy
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Re: Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/18/2007 8:27:07 AM
If the people in this city havent noticed we have NOTHING in this town..why? because of ALL the clowns on city council..all we have is the stupid beach,,,this isnt a real city..no amusements parks for our kids, no places like the Japanese Tea garden in SA..our kids have nothing...and why? Because of the close minded people, they dont want change in this city..WAKE UP people its like stagnate water..pretty disgusting..our streets are so ripped up and all they continue doing is putting a band-aid on the situation, no wonder when our kids graduate and move away, whats here to offer them? NOTHING!
CommonSense
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Re: Re: Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/18/2007 9:02:55 AM
If it''s so bad here Timothy, why don''t you move. Find a place that is more to your liking. Personally, I can''t see living somewhere that I don''t like.
bigo
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Re: Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/18/2007 9:03:37 AM
Even if there were a Lab in CC, it wouldn''t be wise to do the work on a high profile case like this locally. There would be too much room for claims of ""fixing"" the results.
Timothy
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Re: Re: Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/18/2007 11:18:01 AM
I plan on moving this coming year..im in the process of informing the news stations and writing into the paper about little scandals first about a few people in this city, like some on city council that i know personally..ummm also a local news anchor about his infidelity along with all the proof that i have in my posession..just to make people squirm first...its kinda fun to see people squirm when they get themselves in hot water :) So Commonsense..poor choice of name for you..becareful who you piss off.
Cal
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/18/2007 11:47:44 AM
Timothy:

""Payton Place"" was long ago and in a far distant land. We live here in BWBBTB and do not want to change our lifestyle.

We get our ""Soap Operas"" on local TV. Granted they are fiction,but alas,we have our real life dramas here in BWBBTB and proud of out limited exposure.

An expose would bring on many heart attacks and we could loose politicians.
Sure wish you had something on Ted Kennedy,Nancy Peloci and the rest of
The Cereal State."" :D :D Even I could be prone to heart attacks.
CommonSense
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/18/2007 12:17:18 PM
So Commonsense..poor choice of name for you..becareful who you piss off.

Since you seem to know me so well, what should my name be? I will leave it up to the ones here that have met me to decide if it fits or not. Have fun with this as I will not be taking it personally.

As far as your scandals, I would suggest a little maturity on your part. Most of us left high school many years ago and don''t intend on looking back. If you are doing it to make people squirm, that shows a lack of character on your part.
Timothy
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/18/2007 12:30:07 PM
I plan on showing maturity..i will no longer spend my time posting on here..this site is more like high school..i have stated nothing but FACTS..and frankly i could care less what happens to those peoples lives that CHOSE to screw around. When the media gets all the emails that transpired along with the short video clip of the one you worship on here showing me his member in between his radio segments..LOL..., you make your bed..lay in it..he cheated in the past and this is his second time..good luck on your upcomming renewal on your co-anchor position in June
Guido
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/18/2007 1:39:00 PM
(Timothty)...like some on city council that i know personally..ummm also a local news anchor about his infidelity along with all the proof that i have in my posession..just to make people squirm first...

Dang girl! Just how many different hoohaas have you seen? Is that a hobby of yours, or do they just walk up and drop their pants? Geez, it would seem that you have an affinity for this sort of thing, as you have so much evidence. Pity the poor soul who ever confides in you.
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Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/18/2007 5:50:38 PM
timothy''s a girl?
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I think . . .
5/18/2007 8:12:19 PM
. . . slut would be more appropriate.
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Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/18/2007 8:30:42 PM
BWBBTB? wtf
Timothy
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Re: Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/18/2007 9:06:27 PM
Why am i considered a SLUT when Eric sought me out knowingly he was married..i had NO CLUE who in the heck he was...i have emails to PROVE i asked him over and over if he was married and to be honest and he said he wasnt ALSO he said and i quote "" i should be flattered that hes emailing me"" i''m thinking WHY? #1 im far from a slut and #2 why is it when a MAN does something wrong a woman should shut her mouth well guess what it doesn''t work that way...oh and Eric i was going to keep the rest of everything to myself ( and you know what i mean) but its these IDIOTS that are going to let me spill it all..you can thank them for egging me on!
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You''ll have to excuse me . . .
5/18/2007 9:19:46 PM
. . . I thought someone who was screwin'' guys indiscriminately was a slut. Guys think with their pecker.
Guido
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Re: Re: Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/18/2007 9:30:16 PM
Hmm, it is funny that nothing is ever Timothy''s fault. It is the fault of the ""IDIOTS"" that Timbo is going to ""spill"" the beans. Funny how that less than nine hours ago she was going to stop wasting her time posting here. Yet, here she is. I suppose that is our fault, as well.

As far as spilling the beans, who cares beyond you and your accused? This site is probably only regulary perused by a handful of people, most of whom either support EVW or, like me, wouldn''t give a rat''s a$$ about what he does or with whom he does it.

In other words, you want to get into an intelligent discussion about issues of the day, you are welcome to it. If you want to spill your guts about how you were robbed of your chastity, start up your own web page. It has been done before.

The first post or two, it was a diversion. Now, it is just pathetic. If you have those e-mails and whatever photos, send them off to whomever. I seriously doubt that anyone will care. Sure, it might cause a giggle around a watercooler or two on an otherwise achingly dull Monday morning, but it will be forgotten by lunch time.



winston
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith Your are currently viewing this message
5/19/2007 12:37:21 AM
Even if their lab was certified which it isn''t, Mr.Smith has already pretty much admitted his DNA would be there, since he admitted the sex was consensual.


As for Timothy, I am totally interested in what she has to say.
Timothy
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/19/2007 9:05:25 AM
Thank you Winston..and again the only way i know these couple of men that i have stated on here is because THEY approached me..i dont need to go out and seek men, i could care less what you do for a living and what your status is in this community, but when lies start to surface damn right i will speak up..mess with fire and you will get burned so if you''d like i can offer you all and any copies of these emails along with the short video clip of what some people call him the poor accused. Eric you''d fit right in with alot of politicians..you sit there with that fake smug smile, when you cheat and think no one will find out..remember when i told you people saw us together and told me you were married, thought i was too stupid to check into it...i love seeking out cheating spouses, yours was too easy. Isnt there a morality clause in your contract at Channel 10? So you said anyway..unless that was a lie too, shoot i dont know how people can take your word for anything when every other word out of your mouth is a lie. I should have known better when the only place you could meet me at was the lease in Sinton after 11PM that Sunday, and also when you said you couldnt foot the bill for a hotel and you dont carry cash so you asked me to pay for it..LOL what a joke i am.. i''m sure you laughed about it all the time...i wondered why i never could go to your house. I know now, and so does everyone else :)
LONEWOLF
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LISTEN UP!
5/19/2007 12:58:08 PM
You''re WAY out of line punk -- knock it off!
bigo
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Re: LISTEN UP!
5/19/2007 1:03:20 PM
Timbo..

You love seeking out cheating spouses and you talk about morality. What am I missing here??????
Timothy
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Re: LISTEN UP!
5/19/2007 1:10:35 PM
PUNK? Hmmmm good choice of words..but WRONGGGGGGG again, im far from a PUNK..and why is it making your skin crawl? Is it affecting you that i''m speaking the TRUTH...see thats that thing here...it''s ALL TRUTH every bit of it..tsk tsk...it''s nice when to know i have PROOF..if i was a private investigator i would just be doing my job..no? I think it''s so humorous though that men get themselves in these predicaments..im just the messenger :) LOL..it will teach a man next time before cheating though WONT IT!
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You may not be a punk...
5/19/2007 4:30:56 PM
But I think you''re a bitch. I hope Eric removes your bullshit posts.
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Re: Re: LISTEN UP!
5/20/2007 11:20:53 AM
I think you picked the wrong venue to air all this out in,""Timothy"".Although I haven''t been here as long as some of the other Threadsters,I believe I can say with confidence that no one posts here out of unquestioned fealty to Eric.The folks here are a community in and of themselves,and as such,don''t appreciate their forum being used to air personal vendettas..no matter who they''re directed at..and from what you''ve posted here,you come across as having some personal ""score"" to settle with Eric.

If you want a good debate on the issues of the day..this is the place to find it..but if you think that by posting a few e-mails and casting aspersions on Eric''s character that you''ll somehow ""expose"" him here and cause the Threadsters to rethink their opinions of him,you''re sadly mistaken.This board isn''t about him and it doesn''t revolve around him.I''m not an Eric fan,but that stems from his political and ideological views..I couldn''t care less what he does in his personal life,and I don''t think anyone else here does,either..however,I do sincerely appreciate his making this forum possible for all to enjoy.

The hostility you''re encountering here stems from your obvious attempt to use this forum in a way people don''t agree with,not from any blind loyalty to Eric.I''d suggest that whatever personal issues you have with him,you take them up with him personally,and not air them here..that''s not what this forum or the Threadsters are about.
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Re: Re: Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/19/2007 4:16:23 PM
I am in my late forties. In all my years, I have not once had a woman, who I was involved with, ask if I was married. If you have to think of asking the question, alarm bells should be going off.

So, here I am, reading this crap and laughing my butt off. THEN, to top it all off, Timbo compares her actions with that of a PI. In order to be a private investigator, at least a good one, one must at least have a clue. Timbo doesn''t.

Timothy, you are likely not a slut, I don''t really know; yet, you do have all the symtpoms of bimboism. Here you are, an allegedly wronged woman confronting your alleged carouser on his own web site. Yoou purport to have evidence that would crush the man, but instead of presenting that to sources whom you think might care, you present your word to the fact that you have this material to those persons on his message board, many of whom likely support the man.

Personally, I have probably caught the radio program about a dozen times over the years. I prefer sports to other forms of talk radio, so I don''t tune in often. Besides, I don''t live in Corpus, so much of what is discussed concerns me very little. I rarely get a chance to watch much TV, so obviously, I am neither an EVW supporter or detractor. As far as this board, I find it entertaining for the most part, but my presence here is sporadically inconsistent, as others will attest.

I mention all that to ensure you that I neither worship EVW, nor do I loathe him. Yet, as I follow your posts, I can only wonder why you just don''t drop the bomb? If you have been so wronged as you say, why spread it here where you will have zero to little support? Why not just do what you have threatened?

An easy answer to those questions would be that you are untruthful; though, I doubt that is the reason. The real answer may lie in your own immaturity. You have said that you were not going to bother with this message board any longer, yet here you are. If those on this board are IDIOTS and the person who owns the board is a person you seem to despise, why worry what they are thinking of you? My guess is that you do not use your e-mails, photos, video and blue dress with DNA stains or whtever else you say you have because you want to scare Eric enough that he calls you, but not tick him off enough that he never will talk to you again.

I am always amazed when someone calls another to tell them they are no longer going to talk to them again. If I was going to stop talking to someone, the talking would just stop. There would be no warning. They would just never hear from me again. This has never come up, but I know I wouldn''t call them to tell them, ""I hate you and I will never call you again"".

In my mind, those who do so are looking for a response from the other person. Timbo, if that is your reason (and only you know that deep down--admitting it here is not important, just admit it to yourself), you probably need to seek professional help. otherwise, you will continue to live a life of broken promises and utter loneliness.

Good luck to you.
Timothy
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/19/2007 4:43:55 PM
ok lets see what i have here..hmmmm...

You say you know me better then i think? Why do you say that???? Come on be honest..can you do that? And why should it flatter me that you take the time to email me? Im sure you''re emailing or typing to at least 10 others at the same time..I know how Internet Men work :)

-----Original Message-----
From: ericvonwade@hotmail.com
To: aol.com
Sent: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: One Traffic Question ????


And yes I work but I take time durring my breaks to write to you. It should flatter you. :)

>From: aol.com
>To: ericvonwade@hotmail.com
>Subject: Re: One Traffic Question ????
>Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:58:02 -0400
>
>LOL..dont you ever work???? And you act like you know me..(AND YOU DONT) :) >so there!!!! HA HA And by the way are you saying you''re a little (as in) >ahemmmmm wow feel really bad for your girlfriend..LOL
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: ericvonwade@hotmail.com
>To: aol.com
>Sent: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 3:48 PM
>Subject: Re: One Traffic Question ????
>
>
>Don''t act like you don''t like a little typical male every now and then. :)
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> >From: aol.com
> >To: ericvonwade@hotmail.com
> >Subject: Re: One Traffic Question ????
> >Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:23:32 -0400
> >
> > LOL..TYPICAL male...what a bonehead..LOL
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: ericvonwade@hotmail.com
> >To: adamsilva1440keys@yahoo.com; aol.com; > >jilljacobs@rocketmail.com
> >Sent: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 2:51 PM
> >Subject: FW: One Traffic Question ????
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> > > Most men will get this right!
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> > > Q: You are driving along a narrow two lane road with a
> > >NO PASSING sign posted, and come upon a bicycle rider. Do you follow
> > >this slow-moving bicycle rider for the next 2 miles, or do you break
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Date: 4/13/2007 2:56:39 P.M. Central Daylight Time
From: ericvonwade@hotmail.com
I''ll try to send you a picture durring one of my breaks. I''ll have to test
by porn star erection capabilities. :)

I''m kind of excited about this HONESTY thing getting me everywhere. I think
it would be fun to get together sometime. What do you think? :)


>To: ericvonwade@hotmail.com
>Subject: Re: One Traffic Question ????
>Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:28:34 EDT
>
>I didn''t know I had a choice...I thought this was just playful email
>banter..no???? Remember..HONESTY gets you everywhere :)
>

We''ll have to work on a ""when and where."" :) I am on the air for my radio
show from 2-6pm m-f and then I''m at the tv station from 8:30 to usually
10:50 or 11:15pm m-f. Don''t work weekends. Durring the week I''m kind of a
night Owl. To answer your question no, I was though. Are you?
361-438-xxxx


>To: ericvonwade@hotmail.com
>Subject: Re: One Traffic Question ????
>Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:38:34 EDT
>
>Hmmmm....like when and where? And I have one other question for you..and
>remember HONESTY..are you married? Perhaps we can exchange numbers as well,
>that
>might be a good start too, don''t ya think? :)
>



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HIGHME
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Child Psychology?
5/20/2007 4:02:07 AM
I have nothing against a person for their sexual orientation however, when one rebukes others and acts like they are something they are not; there is a problem.

You guys be the Judge.

Why does this damaging thread remain as it will be a very damaging piece of evidence in court IF it is the problem.

It doesn''t make sense unless the intent is to (sacrifice) send a message of a less damaging nature in place of a truer more damaging one.

He wants you guys to believe Timothy because why?

And I hope I am wrong because I too once believed in EVW and
HIGHME
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Re: Child Psychology?
5/20/2007 4:15:57 AM
Another thing, EVW could have an email account at hotmail and maybe it is his primary account but the email address below is the one he has used in the past.

evwade@intcomm.net

How bout a subpoena on all email communications?

Hey thanks for the good idea.

No, not for here
CommonSense
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Timothy.....
5/19/2007 10:21:10 PM
If you have a personal beef with Eric that is between you and him. This is not the place for your kind of high school antics. This is really none of our business.

It is funny how within 1 post you went from questioning my name here to ""spilling the beans"". I believe I said go ahead and give me a new name is you felt you knew me so well. The next thing I know, your posting this crap about Eric again. Obviously you cannot understand the difference between personal and public.

I also didn''t see anyone ""egging"" you on to produce the information, if its real, until after you started on your little soapbox.

As I stated earlier. Take it up with Eric and don''t do it here. His business is his business. You shouldn''t be trying to make it our business.

That is what separates the adults from the kids.
Cal
Posts: 1342


Re: Timothy.....
5/20/2007 7:27:23 AM
AHHHH YeSSSSS Nothing like a ""Return To Payton Place"" but this time it is here in BWBBTB.

Reminds me also of ""Harper Valley PTA"" but here we have no valleys.

Yes, those were the ""Days of Wine and Roses.""

Say,who started this mess anyway???

I think it is a :D :D :D :D

is Timothy a girl or gay~ or is Eric ?

Original Message
CommonSense
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Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/8/2007 7:37:41 PM
I posted this within another thread, but I thought I would give it it's own thread so y'all won't overlook it.

I had to type manually because it is a pdf document. I don't want to link to another website that Eric wouldn't approve of.(competitor)

Intergraph Case Number 07-04210125

At approximately 1:52 PM on April 21, 2007, I contacted the victim at 3315 S. Alameda (Doctor's Regional Emergency Room) in reference to a sexual assault report. When contacted, victim #1 had advised that she and suspect #1 (As of a month ago) were boyfriend and girlfriend. Victim added that suspect #1 had been in contact with her since the time of the break-up. Victim added that at approximately 2 am on April 21, 2007, suspect #1 had sent her a text message via her cell phone that he was outside of her apartment. Victim advised that she let suspect #1 into her apartment due to avoid waking up her child. Victim added that suspect #1 was intoxicated. Victim added that this led to him (suspect #1) touching and kissing each other which lated led to sexual intercourse against her will. The assault in question occured in her living room. Victim kept adding that she still loves suspect #1. Sexual assault exam requested was signed by reporting officer.

Case: 07-421125

Y'all can draw your own conclusions. In my opinion, there doesn't seem to be enough here to actually make charges. I'm waiting to see what the rape kit will reveal.

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Republic69
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Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/8/2007 8:42:47 PM
Did you not read the part about SEXUAL INTERCOURSE AGAINST HER WILL? Despite she says ""she still loves him"", you can love someone and still get raped by them. You can love your wife/girlfriend and she can love you back, but forcing someone into sex, is RAPE, and it does not matter if you love them or not.

If your wife says no to sex, but you still force yourself into her, that is rape, its domestic rape.
CommonSense
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Here is a novel idea Republic.....
5/8/2007 9:36:33 PM
drop the attitude there spanky. I posted this for everyone to see the report and posted my own opinion. The report speaks for itself.

I''m glad you understand the concept of ""no means no"". That is a concept that most of us men learn at an early age.

Once again I will point out to you as I have for others. Let the investigation play out. The rape kit will hopefully fill in the blanks that the report is missing.

Lighten up man.
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The problem...
5/9/2007 12:14:50 AM
I just think the problem Is that he is engaged and allegedly having sex with another woman.

Secondly, shouldn''t the Chief of Police be doing things to remove people from the streets who are driving while intoxicated, or did he ride his bike to this woman''s house?

I personally like Bryan, I am a little disappointed. I don''t think he''s a rapist by any means, but I think he made some poor judgement. Just goes to show that everyone makes mistakes. I hope he comes back from vacation and continues doing what he''s been doing.
Cal
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Re: The problem...
5/9/2007 7:38:15 AM
Just goes to show that everyone makes mistakes.

Even Melody Cooper? And she should Know better,but did it anyway. So saith the Judge.

Now some people are after her hide.
LONEWOLF
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Re: The problem...
5/9/2007 1:57:36 PM
Kinda funny dontcha think that you ""...don''t think he''s a rapist by any means"" but you take her unsubstantiated claim that he was drunk as gospel truth.
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Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/9/2007 7:56:39 AM
If somebody rapes you,......

I am sorry,.......

but the love is gone.

Pure and simple she wanted to let the whole world know he used her.

Wham bam thank you mam.

That is all it amounted to and she wanted it to mean more.

I didnt, get over it.

Rape is vile!

You don''t love someone after they rape you.

She is desparate.
Republic69
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Re: Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/9/2007 11:35:11 AM
Army of Juan, you are in need of an internship at the Women''s Shelter.

Have you ever heard of Battered Woman Syndrome? Women can be beaten, raped, sodomized, thrown down a flight of stairs, humiliated, and she will still stay with her husband/lover/boyfriend as a result of psychologically been dependent on him as well as financially for her children.

In your mind, Chief Bryan Smith probably should have URINATED on her like the Annaville rapist, maybe then she would not seem so ""desperate""?!
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Re: Re: Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/9/2007 10:16:42 PM
Know all about it. Those women dont call up the media and only file police reports when they are very angry (it takes the anger for them to even file). When they file they dont love the loser. After the begin to ""miss him"" then they think they ""love him"".

The girl is ate up with jealousy and this jealousy was used by the political expedient. They wanted to place the chief under the thumb. Women are the tool of power politics usually it works out more subtle and is held over the head for a favor in the future. You want to go after somebody who beats his spouse check out the divorces of some of our leading men.

You will see this was a political stunt.
Timothy
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Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/9/2007 9:53:36 AM
She is desperate? Do you know how dumb that sounds? He went to her place why? hmmm obviously only he knows but im sure like most men that are engaged or in a relationship with their significant other its purely for SEX he wanted it..she didnt call him he TEXT her..and shes the desperate one? NO shes the smart one for bringing this out in the open and making him think now ""what the heck did i do""..its amazing when people do things wrong and AFTER the fact they want to know WHY are you doing this to me? WHY are you letting the public know this? SO no if it wasnt rape fine, if it was justice will hopefully be served..Chief Bryan Smith has issues, he was always at the Surf Club with his fiancee and even then HE had a roving eye on every little thing that passed by him..i think hes just really high on himself because of the position he holds..I have seen it with my own 2 eyes...Too many people in high positions in this community just need to realize that people are watching
Guido
Posts: 413


Re: Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/9/2007 2:14:17 PM
Unless there is a fairly copious amount of vaginal tearing indicating that the sex was most likely not consensual, this case is going to be a pretty big loser for the prosecution, regardless of whether a rape occurred or not.

First, there are only two witnesses to the alleged offense, the accuser and the accused. Second, any defense attorney worth his salt will point out that the suspect texted her that he was outside--a locked door. The victim will likely be grilled about why she just didn''t call police. Then, he will jump on the fact that she said she still loves him. By the end of her testimony, he will have the jury accepting the premise that she is a jilted woman trying to get her man back by anyway possible.

Is that the truth? We will likely never know the true answer to that. The only thing that is certain is that there is most likely a copious amount of reasonable doubt in this case.

If the alleged victim was raped, she will probably never find justice in this case. If she was not raped, Smith will most likely never clear his name, as the court of public opinion is not contricted by reasonable doubt requirements. The only winners will be the defense attorneys who will make a bundle on this case.

Is that the way it should be? No. Is that the way it is much of the time? Yes.
Cal
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Re: Re: Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/9/2007 3:55:35 PM
The only winners will be the defense attorneys

Should this go to trial,I will be there in a packed courtroom listening very intently to testimony by all parties. Then I will write my answer on a piece of paper,give it to a friend to hold and make/take bets on the verdict of the jury.
LONEWOLF
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/9/2007 4:06:45 PM
This case will never see a courtroom.
Cal
Posts: 1341


Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/9/2007 8:21:31 PM
If the case never goes to court,then I won''t be able to make bets.

Oh well,life will go on with or without Chief Bryan Smith.
CommonSense
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Here is the contradiction in her statement....
5/9/2007 4:25:01 PM
Victim added that this led to him (suspect #1) touching and kissing each other which later led to sexual intercourse against her will.


The end of the statement states that the sex was against her will. However, she seemed a willing participant up to that point. Unfortunately all this statement really shows is her word against his, and we still don''t know if any of this took place or not. Remember the Duke players?

Let the investigation play out.
Guido
Posts: 413


Re: Here is the contradiction in her statement....
5/9/2007 4:57:45 PM
The difference between this and the Duke case is that one of the accused could prove he was innocent.
Timothy
Posts: 24


Re: Re: Here is the contradiction in her statement....
5/9/2007 5:23:52 PM
Here''s the thing he should not have been there anyway..he is ENGAGED!!!!..it makes him look guilty no matter what..and it makes him look exactly what it is a drunk man wanting a booty call at 2AM and they always call on thier ex...awwww poor Bryan Smith..you made yourself look like an ass regardless of the outcome...Next time think with your OTHER HEAD!
CommonSense
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Food for thought Timothy....
5/9/2007 5:42:51 PM
Did this alleged sexual encounter occur that day? We still don''t know. That is when the report was filed but so far that is the only thing indicating that something happened that day if it did.
Timothy
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Re: Food for thought Timothy....
5/9/2007 6:41:59 PM
The truth always comes out :)
Cal
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Re: Re: Food for thought Timothy....
5/9/2007 8:34:05 PM
Since when!!!! :D :D :D

With todays lawyers the truth will never come out!!!
Timothy
Posts: 24


Re: Re: Re: Food for thought Timothy....
5/10/2007 7:30:16 AM
If the truth doesnt come out it wont be because of the attorneys,,it will be simply because of the position Bryan Smith holds in this city, Corpus Christis SUPPOSIBLY Finest are good for this prancing around with their badges and their status and KNOWING that even if the Tex Rangers look into this MOST cases are thrown out simply cause CC Finest never seem to do any wrong...they can speed and NO BIGGIE, shit when i see that i catch right up next to them showing them that if you can do it SO can I..they are little boys with a toy on their side and a toy in their pants ,,and 99.5% know it.. whats good for the goose is good for the gander
Guido
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Food for thought Timothy....
5/10/2007 2:43:20 PM
The difference is, if Bryan Smith was not in his position, this would not be headline news. If he was a welder''s helper, she probably would not have had anything to do with him in the first place. Losing a work-a-day guy would be no biggie and she would find another, easy enough.

Even the report, where she states they were kissing and touching EACH OTHER, indicates that she welcomed him. Yes, Bryan Smith is a dumbass and a lech for making the booty call, but the alleged victim opened the door. She had to know why he was there and perhaps even was glad he was there.

My guess is that she got ticked off when he went back to business as usual. The only person with no fault in this matter is the fiancee'', though I have no idea why she went before the cameras with Smith when the announcement was made. She should have given him his walking papers well before that time.

Yeah, many men are dogs, but many women are also to blame. If a man wants to stray, he doesn''t have to look far to find a skank to stray with.
Timothy
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Food for thought Timothy....
5/10/2007 4:10:59 PM
You know not all women go after men that hold higher positions..some men tend to SEEK women that have no clue WHOM they are, its a POWER thing..shoot i''d rather have a down to earth guy that isnt in the publics eye that way IF and WHEN he were to screw up you don''t look like the idiot that stands with him on his side infront of the media..a woman like that needs to check herself at the door...i''d be SEE YA LATER BABE..Id rather be someones priority as opposed to their option..and thats exactly what he did to both women they were both OPTIONS...i''d be putting that engagement ring on ebay to the highest bidder ..LOL
bigo
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Food for thought Timothy....
5/18/2007 9:42:07 PM
My pappy always said there''s nothing worse that a pissed off woman. I wonder if she''s any kin to the Chiefs ex??

Oh well, I don''t foresee her posting much longer. And good luck getting those personal emails published in the CCCT''s.
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Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/9/2007 10:25:21 PM
I agree with you Timothy except she was desparate. Bryan has a roving eye and all the other Quorum Club Surf Club etc etc etc

But this one was a pre meditated booty call.

I bet there is video as well but it will tell the real story.

She was losing him.

I apologize if it disagrees with you.
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Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/15/2007 1:36:09 PM
smith was drunk, but he wasn''t drinking his pimp juice. old dude slipped.
booty calls are not hard to pull off, engaged or not.
Timothy
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Re: Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/15/2007 2:26:40 PM
Slipped? Hmmm you mean CCPD doesn''t supply those devices that you wear around your neck so when you SLIP you can press it and someone will be there to help you get up? I can buy him some Pimp Juice on Ebay that way next time he WONT SLIP..LOL




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He was just tryin'' . . .
5/15/2007 3:08:03 PM
. . . out that stuff that promises instant male enhancement (I think we just used to refer to this as ""wood"") that is advertised on KEYS.
Cal
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Re: Re: Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/15/2007 3:33:47 PM
Heard at morning coffee break this morning he is getting 6mos vacation as that is how long The Rangers are going to take for the investigation.

I smells da rat!!!
Timothy
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/15/2007 5:18:23 PM
Hmmm just watched the news yup 6 more months and he still states that all sex was CONSENSUAL..i hope all the embarrasment was worth it..he should have bought a FLESHLIGHT if he needed to get off that bad
CommonSense
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I would hate to be a criminal with......
5/15/2007 4:13:53 PM
some of you on the jury. Y''all have already convicted him before the investigation is over. If he is guilty, then he needs to be punished. If he is innocent, then he should be able to continue on with his work.

Keep in mind people...

Everything at this point is her word against his. Hard to convict on that. They need to be able to find physical evidence to support her case. That is why I keep stating that it will be interesting to see what the rape kit reveals. Also remember, that the rape kit can show she had sex, but it may not tell with who if there is no DNA. I hate to keep bringing this up, but remember the Duke case?
Cal
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Re: I would hate to be a criminal with......
5/15/2007 5:30:13 PM
Don''t get us wrong. We agree with you. We are just wondering why six months for the rape kit results.

If I were in that position and I had nothing to hide,I would be screeming bloody murder for a poly test.

Even if he did have consenual sex with why not just come out and say so. Guess he could want his cake and eat it also.

I will not say he is guilty nor will I say he is innocent as I was not there and I do not know the facts of the investigation. I can and as many others can only form an opinion based on what is put out i9n the media. After the job No. 3 in ratings did on the pastor in Portland.I will form an opinion on the other two,
Timothy
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Re: Re: I would hate to be a criminal with......
5/15/2007 6:04:04 PM
Hmmm enough evidence to go infront of the Grand Jury...impressive...cant wait May 25th
CommonSense
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The Mayor called the head of DPS....
5/15/2007 9:11:21 PM
and requested that the investigation be completed sooner. Apparently the lab that will do the testing on the rape kit is understaffed and stated it would take 6 months to complete. However, a phone call to the lab has them completing it in 2-3 months.

Another thing to check is the phone record. They can check to see if the text message was sent at the time she indicates in the report. They may not be able to determine the message.
Cal
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Re: The Mayor called the head of DPS....
5/16/2007 8:33:40 AM
Wonder who hit Garrett on the head to wake him up and make the phone call?

Maybe Gibbs bopped him!! :) :) :)


Well anyway,he did something right.
Timothy
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Re: Re: The Mayor called the head of DPS....
5/16/2007 9:27:34 AM
First off they could have requested to see her cell phone it would show a text message from him and the time sent they dont actually need to pull records, if she was smart she would have locked the message as evidence
Guido
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Re: Re: Re: The Mayor called the head of DPS....
5/17/2007 7:58:54 PM
First of all, six months WAS fast action from the DPS lab. Many cases take up to a year, depending upon the agency. Usually, you just get in line with all the other sex crimes. In order for this woman''s test to move up, obviously someone''s wait, perhaps that 5 year-old girl raped by an uncle, will be longer now.

Sadly, that wait will be for naught, as the defense already seems to be stipulating that sex occured. DNA will not show anything more than who made a deposit, not how forcefully said deposit was placed. There are no ""rape sperms"". There are no semen dressed as pirates boarding the undefended vagina vessel.

In other words, the DNA is actually useless in this case. Henry Garrett grandstanded by calling in a favor, and then could only cut the wait by about 1/2 to 2/3. I suppose he doesn''t pull as much weight as he thought.

Basically, the D.A. will go with her word against his to the Grand Jury. The defense will have no chance to rebut any testimony or offer their own side beyond what is allowed by the prosecution. However, once an indictment is handed down (if it happens), then the defense can go to work.

If a D.A. really wants to indict someone, it will happen. No amount of innocence will prevent it. Grand Juries can be stacked and they can also be hoodwinked. Chucky is pretty good at both.
winston
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Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/18/2007 12:21:14 AM
I believe we had a certified CSI Lab @ CCPD but Skip Noe refused to Recertify it when Alvarez was running for Sheriff.

So we have no lab because of this clown.

Blame him for the next six months.

BTW he voted for a raise for himself and the Waters Group.

What a guy
Timothy
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Re: Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/18/2007 8:27:07 AM
If the people in this city havent noticed we have NOTHING in this town..why? because of ALL the clowns on city council..all we have is the stupid beach,,,this isnt a real city..no amusements parks for our kids, no places like the Japanese Tea garden in SA..our kids have nothing...and why? Because of the close minded people, they dont want change in this city..WAKE UP people its like stagnate water..pretty disgusting..our streets are so ripped up and all they continue doing is putting a band-aid on the situation, no wonder when our kids graduate and move away, whats here to offer them? NOTHING!
CommonSense
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Re: Re: Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/18/2007 9:02:55 AM
If it''s so bad here Timothy, why don''t you move. Find a place that is more to your liking. Personally, I can''t see living somewhere that I don''t like.
bigo
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Re: Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/18/2007 9:03:37 AM
Even if there were a Lab in CC, it wouldn''t be wise to do the work on a high profile case like this locally. There would be too much room for claims of ""fixing"" the results.
Timothy
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Re: Re: Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/18/2007 11:18:01 AM
I plan on moving this coming year..im in the process of informing the news stations and writing into the paper about little scandals first about a few people in this city, like some on city council that i know personally..ummm also a local news anchor about his infidelity along with all the proof that i have in my posession..just to make people squirm first...its kinda fun to see people squirm when they get themselves in hot water :) So Commonsense..poor choice of name for you..becareful who you piss off.
Cal
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/18/2007 11:47:44 AM
Timothy:

""Payton Place"" was long ago and in a far distant land. We live here in BWBBTB and do not want to change our lifestyle.

We get our ""Soap Operas"" on local TV. Granted they are fiction,but alas,we have our real life dramas here in BWBBTB and proud of out limited exposure.

An expose would bring on many heart attacks and we could loose politicians.
Sure wish you had something on Ted Kennedy,Nancy Peloci and the rest of
The Cereal State."" :D :D Even I could be prone to heart attacks.
CommonSense
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/18/2007 12:17:18 PM
So Commonsense..poor choice of name for you..becareful who you piss off.

Since you seem to know me so well, what should my name be? I will leave it up to the ones here that have met me to decide if it fits or not. Have fun with this as I will not be taking it personally.

As far as your scandals, I would suggest a little maturity on your part. Most of us left high school many years ago and don''t intend on looking back. If you are doing it to make people squirm, that shows a lack of character on your part.
Timothy
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/18/2007 12:30:07 PM
I plan on showing maturity..i will no longer spend my time posting on here..this site is more like high school..i have stated nothing but FACTS..and frankly i could care less what happens to those peoples lives that CHOSE to screw around. When the media gets all the emails that transpired along with the short video clip of the one you worship on here showing me his member in between his radio segments..LOL..., you make your bed..lay in it..he cheated in the past and this is his second time..good luck on your upcomming renewal on your co-anchor position in June
Guido
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/18/2007 1:39:00 PM
(Timothty)...like some on city council that i know personally..ummm also a local news anchor about his infidelity along with all the proof that i have in my posession..just to make people squirm first...

Dang girl! Just how many different hoohaas have you seen? Is that a hobby of yours, or do they just walk up and drop their pants? Geez, it would seem that you have an affinity for this sort of thing, as you have so much evidence. Pity the poor soul who ever confides in you.
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Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/18/2007 5:50:38 PM
timothy''s a girl?
curmudgeon
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I think . . .
5/18/2007 8:12:19 PM
. . . slut would be more appropriate.
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Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/18/2007 8:30:42 PM
BWBBTB? wtf
Timothy
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Re: Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/18/2007 9:06:27 PM
Why am i considered a SLUT when Eric sought me out knowingly he was married..i had NO CLUE who in the heck he was...i have emails to PROVE i asked him over and over if he was married and to be honest and he said he wasnt ALSO he said and i quote "" i should be flattered that hes emailing me"" i''m thinking WHY? #1 im far from a slut and #2 why is it when a MAN does something wrong a woman should shut her mouth well guess what it doesn''t work that way...oh and Eric i was going to keep the rest of everything to myself ( and you know what i mean) but its these IDIOTS that are going to let me spill it all..you can thank them for egging me on!
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You''ll have to excuse me . . .
5/18/2007 9:19:46 PM
. . . I thought someone who was screwin'' guys indiscriminately was a slut. Guys think with their pecker.
Guido
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Re: Re: Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/18/2007 9:30:16 PM
Hmm, it is funny that nothing is ever Timothy''s fault. It is the fault of the ""IDIOTS"" that Timbo is going to ""spill"" the beans. Funny how that less than nine hours ago she was going to stop wasting her time posting here. Yet, here she is. I suppose that is our fault, as well.

As far as spilling the beans, who cares beyond you and your accused? This site is probably only regulary perused by a handful of people, most of whom either support EVW or, like me, wouldn''t give a rat''s a$$ about what he does or with whom he does it.

In other words, you want to get into an intelligent discussion about issues of the day, you are welcome to it. If you want to spill your guts about how you were robbed of your chastity, start up your own web page. It has been done before.

The first post or two, it was a diversion. Now, it is just pathetic. If you have those e-mails and whatever photos, send them off to whomever. I seriously doubt that anyone will care. Sure, it might cause a giggle around a watercooler or two on an otherwise achingly dull Monday morning, but it will be forgotten by lunch time.



winston
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/19/2007 12:37:21 AM
Even if their lab was certified which it isn''t, Mr.Smith has already pretty much admitted his DNA would be there, since he admitted the sex was consensual.


As for Timothy, I am totally interested in what she has to say.
Timothy
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/19/2007 9:05:25 AM
Thank you Winston..and again the only way i know these couple of men that i have stated on here is because THEY approached me..i dont need to go out and seek men, i could care less what you do for a living and what your status is in this community, but when lies start to surface damn right i will speak up..mess with fire and you will get burned so if you''d like i can offer you all and any copies of these emails along with the short video clip of what some people call him the poor accused. Eric you''d fit right in with alot of politicians..you sit there with that fake smug smile, when you cheat and think no one will find out..remember when i told you people saw us together and told me you were married, thought i was too stupid to check into it...i love seeking out cheating spouses, yours was too easy. Isnt there a morality clause in your contract at Channel 10? So you said anyway..unless that was a lie too, shoot i dont know how people can take your word for anything when every other word out of your mouth is a lie. I should have known better when the only place you could meet me at was the lease in Sinton after 11PM that Sunday, and also when you said you couldnt foot the bill for a hotel and you dont carry cash so you asked me to pay for it..LOL what a joke i am.. i''m sure you laughed about it all the time...i wondered why i never could go to your house. I know now, and so does everyone else :)
LONEWOLF
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LISTEN UP!
5/19/2007 12:58:08 PM
You''re WAY out of line punk -- knock it off!
bigo
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Re: LISTEN UP!
5/19/2007 1:03:20 PM
Timbo..

You love seeking out cheating spouses and you talk about morality. What am I missing here??????
Timothy
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Re: LISTEN UP!
5/19/2007 1:10:35 PM
PUNK? Hmmmm good choice of words..but WRONGGGGGGG again, im far from a PUNK..and why is it making your skin crawl? Is it affecting you that i''m speaking the TRUTH...see thats that thing here...it''s ALL TRUTH every bit of it..tsk tsk...it''s nice when to know i have PROOF..if i was a private investigator i would just be doing my job..no? I think it''s so humorous though that men get themselves in these predicaments..im just the messenger :) LOL..it will teach a man next time before cheating though WONT IT!
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You may not be a punk...
5/19/2007 4:30:56 PM
But I think you''re a bitch. I hope Eric removes your bullshit posts.
Guido
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Re: Re: Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/19/2007 4:16:23 PM
I am in my late forties. In all my years, I have not once had a woman, who I was involved with, ask if I was married. If you have to think of asking the question, alarm bells should be going off.

So, here I am, reading this crap and laughing my butt off. THEN, to top it all off, Timbo compares her actions with that of a PI. In order to be a private investigator, at least a good one, one must at least have a clue. Timbo doesn''t.

Timothy, you are likely not a slut, I don''t really know; yet, you do have all the symtpoms of bimboism. Here you are, an allegedly wronged woman confronting your alleged carouser on his own web site. Yoou purport to have evidence that would crush the man, but instead of presenting that to sources whom you think might care, you present your word to the fact that you have this material to those persons on his message board, many of whom likely support the man.

Personally, I have probably caught the radio program about a dozen times over the years. I prefer sports to other forms of talk radio, so I don''t tune in often. Besides, I don''t live in Corpus, so much of what is discussed concerns me very little. I rarely get a chance to watch much TV, so obviously, I am neither an EVW supporter or detractor. As far as this board, I find it entertaining for the most part, but my presence here is sporadically inconsistent, as others will attest.

I mention all that to ensure you that I neither worship EVW, nor do I loathe him. Yet, as I follow your posts, I can only wonder why you just don''t drop the bomb? If you have been so wronged as you say, why spread it here where you will have zero to little support? Why not just do what you have threatened?

An easy answer to those questions would be that you are untruthful; though, I doubt that is the reason. The real answer may lie in your own immaturity. You have said that you were not going to bother with this message board any longer, yet here you are. If those on this board are IDIOTS and the person who owns the board is a person you seem to despise, why worry what they are thinking of you? My guess is that you do not use your e-mails, photos, video and blue dress with DNA stains or whtever else you say you have because you want to scare Eric enough that he calls you, but not tick him off enough that he never will talk to you again.

I am always amazed when someone calls another to tell them they are no longer going to talk to them again. If I was going to stop talking to someone, the talking would just stop. There would be no warning. They would just never hear from me again. This has never come up, but I know I wouldn''t call them to tell them, ""I hate you and I will never call you again"".

In my mind, those who do so are looking for a response from the other person. Timbo, if that is your reason (and only you know that deep down--admitting it here is not important, just admit it to yourself), you probably need to seek professional help. otherwise, you will continue to live a life of broken promises and utter loneliness.

Good luck to you.
Timothy
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Here is a portion of the police report on Chief Smith
5/19/2007 4:43:55 PM
ok lets see what i have here..hmmmm...

You say you know me better then i think? Why do you say that???? Come on be honest..can you do that? And why should it flatter me that you take the time to email me? Im sure you''re emailing or typing to at least 10 others at the same time..I know how Internet Men work :)

-----Original Message-----
From: ericvonwade@hotmail.com
To: aol.com
Sent: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: One Traffic Question ????


And yes I work but I take time durring my breaks to write to you. It should flatter you. :)

>From: aol.com
>To: ericvonwade@hotmail.com
>Subject: Re: One Traffic Question ????
>Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:58:02 -0400
>
>LOL..dont you ever work???? And you act like you know me..(AND YOU DONT) :) >so there!!!! HA HA And by the way are you saying you''re a little (as in) >ahemmmmm wow feel really bad for your girlfriend..LOL
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: ericvonwade@hotmail.com
>To: aol.com
>Sent: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 3:48 PM
>Subject: Re: One Traffic Question ????
>
>
>Don''t act like you don''t like a little typical male every now and then. :)
>
> >From: aol.com
> >To: ericvonwade@hotmail.com
> >Subject: Re: One Traffic Question ????
> >Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:23:32 -0400
> >
> > LOL..TYPICAL male...what a bonehead..LOL
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: ericvonwade@hotmail.com
> >To: adamsilva1440keys@yahoo.com; aol.com; > >jilljacobs@rocketmail.com
> >Sent: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 2:51 PM
> >Subject: FW: One Traffic Question ????
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Date: 4/13/2007 2:56:39 P.M. Central Daylight Time
From: ericvonwade@hotmail.com
I''ll try to send you a picture durring one of my breaks. I''ll have to test
by porn star erection capabilities. :)

I''m kind of excited about this HONESTY thing getting me everywhere. I think
it would be fun to get together sometime. What do you think? :)


>To: ericvonwade@hotmail.com
>Subject: Re: One Traffic Question ????
>Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:28:34 EDT
>
>I didn''t know I had a choice...I thought this was just playful email
>banter..no???? Remember..HONESTY gets you everywhere :)
>

We''ll have to work on a ""when and where."" :) I am on the air for my radio
show from 2-6pm m-f and then I''m at the tv station from 8:30 to usually
10:50 or 11:15pm m-f. Don''t work weekends. Durring the week I''m kind of a
night Owl. To answer your question no, I was though. Are you?
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>To: ericvonwade@hotmail.com
>Subject: Re: One Traffic Question ????
>Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:38:34 EDT
>
>Hmmmm....like when and where? And I have one other question for you..and
>remember HONESTY..are you married? Perhaps we can exchange numbers as well,
>that
>might be a good start too, don''t ya think? :)
>



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CommonSense
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Timothy..... Your are currently viewing this message
5/19/2007 10:21:10 PM
If you have a personal beef with Eric that is between you and him. This is not the place for your kind of high school antics. This is really none of our business.

It is funny how within 1 post you went from questioning my name here to ""spilling the beans"". I believe I said go ahead and give me a new name is you felt you knew me so well. The next thing I know, your posting this crap about Eric again. Obviously you cannot understand the difference between personal and public.

I also didn''t see anyone ""egging"" you on to produce the information, if its real, until after you started on your little soapbox.

As I stated earlier. Take it up with Eric and don''t do it here. His business is his business. You shouldn''t be trying to make it our business.

That is what separates the adults from the kids.